'Spooky Bee Slumber' w/ Jo D'arc

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Joe Diack 1/2 of the twisted 1/5 of the gyro babies RIP 100% of Minerva wakes and I don't have a calculator to work out what percentage of she Drew the Gun and Declan Welsh in the decadent west she is. Well I believe she is almost ready to join us get a chat tonight because we've got a Halloween party on 30 October. Minerva Wakes wakes up again from a spooky slumber to celebrate the Apocalypse Theorist album launch. Also texture on the bill. Also Jackal trades on the bill as well. And yeah that's the 30th of October the SWG3 Poetry Club and I'll put a link in the description if you want to join us for that. Joe is had a busy year performing with the Twisted. Also the last ever Gyro Baby shows were this year as well with the the big finale at the art school and since then Joe has also been playing with she Drew the Gun at one one of my favorite bands where she played among many shows alongside Louisa and co at the Main Stage Eden Festival which was Joe's second main stage performance at Eden in a row. If the Twist lets play next year they'll just need to rename it the Jodiac Stage. And then more recently she's been performing with Declan Welsh and the Decadent west, another brilliant band and they're actually going to Spain and France. You'll be playing bass guitar with them in Spain and France over and I think next week I think Joe's ready. Is Joe ready? Just as well. You've been just really been so busy so that I could do that long intro. [00:02:11] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, sorry, I was just getting. Getting myself all set. Sorry. [00:02:17] Speaker A: That's right. I don't even know where to start. It's a busy year. [00:02:24] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I've been doing lots just to say I've been playing session with Sh the Gun and Declan Welsh. So it's not like I've not joined like 50 new bands, it's just kind of jumping on to kind of play bass for gigs for their bass players [00:02:38] Speaker A: couldn't make it so maybe because it still counts. It still counts. You're playing. [00:02:42] Speaker B: It's still been amazing and I'm still buzzing about it but just. Just to clarify, just to me. Yeah. [00:02:49] Speaker A: And we got. Hello Stuart. Hello Lily, hello Lou. Hello Ali. Hello Paul. Good to see you all tonight. So where do we start? Where do we start? [00:03:02] Speaker B: Oh, at the beginning. At the beginning of the year maybe. I don't know so well I could talk about. Yeah, I mean, do we want to talk? [00:03:10] Speaker A: What was the beginning of the year? What was it? What was the beginning of the year? Right, so that was. That was rehearsing. That was mostly. [00:03:19] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Gyro Babies final. Final gig. Probably the longest gig I've ever played. I think I've never been in a covers band or that I know that people that are in kind of wedding bands play two. Two hours. Did we play two hours? But I've not done that before. Yeah, I've done a two hour DG set, I think, but not a [00:03:41] Speaker A: once before Malik and. [00:03:44] Speaker B: Oh, I was there. [00:03:46] Speaker A: You were there. [00:03:47] Speaker B: Did we not do like. Was there a random summer of 69 cover in there or something? [00:03:51] Speaker A: Yes. She wasn't a random woman, apparently. She's called Sheila's Wheels and she demanded. She wasn't too impressed with our original works, so she demanded summer of 69. And Robbie knew it. He knew the chords and I was up for going for a. A Pint Stroke Toilet break. [00:04:13] Speaker B: So, yeah, that's all I can remember from that gig is. Is that that woman coming up and do it? She did really well. She. She nailed the timing and stuff. It was. [00:04:21] Speaker A: It was, yeah, but what was it? I was. Joanne shouts to rip. Joan, who got us up there, looked after us. We got. We got paid well, we got looked after, we got a hotel, we get fed well. But the catch was they wanted three hours from us and I think we had about a 45 minute set, so we had to. We had to wing it, play things a bit slower. I think you did the set, I think you did some covers. I think Goddy did some covers as well. [00:04:45] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:04:48] Speaker A: So, yeah, the two hour. The two hour. The two hour gig at art school, how did that feel? Did you enjoy that? [00:04:55] Speaker B: Good. Yeah, yeah, it was. It was great. I think it might be the best we've. We ever played or at least when I was in the band. It was great. It was. It was a really nice night, really. It was intense. It was emotional. It was all the things, wasn't it? But it was great. It was such a lovely bunch of people on stage as well. Just, yeah, really special and in the audience. I then I drank far too much backstage afterwards. I was. I was. Me and Freya were going drink for drink and Freya's a good drinker, so I was very drunk. But yeah, I think I had to get walked Home by Dougie McKinines actually, to make sure that. I don't think he thought I could make it on My own. So take me home. [00:05:41] Speaker A: Yeah. I remember trying to phone an Uber to the United States of America. [00:05:46] Speaker B: I don't know what happened to. I was attempting to use Uber. Yeah. I don't know what happened, but. And I was determined to take those sombreros with me as well. So, like, I'm kind of staggering along with like a pile of disco ball sombreros and back to the. The. The We. The wee flat that Josephine and I were. Were had as our gaff that night. Anyway, yeah, that was. That was the end of that night. [00:06:14] Speaker A: The sombreros were safe. Everything else was just left at that school till the Monday. I think we got. I think we got everything back. I think we got everything back. It was all good. It was all good. And I notice you said that you drink it after it. People might be interested to know that you don't drink before you perform a gig. True or false? [00:06:31] Speaker B: Yeah, I've never. I've never done it. Never ever. I've tried having a couple and it just makes me nervous. It just makes me kind of like. I don't know. I just feel like I. I don't know. I just don't like it. I think because I learned when I was at a little. A little youth club, so I played loads of gigs before I was even allowed to drink alcohol, like, alongside it. And it just. They don't go together for me, like playing music and drinking booze. Just don't, like, don't. They're not. They don't come in the same thing. But I quite like to have a drink afterwards. Yeah, I don't know. That's. [00:07:09] Speaker A: And obviously. And how is it. Because obviously you. You work really hard to. To learn the parts and you very. I don't remember you ever really making a mistake. So the sobriety works. How difficult was it to take on, like, a whole new. Because obviously Shidra the Gun's got a massive set. Declan Welch has got a massive set. So how. How different is that? Just learning so many songs in such a short period of time. [00:07:39] Speaker B: Yeah, it was really different. I mean, I don't. I. I'm not. I've never been a session player. It's not something that I've ever been mad interested in doing. But I love she Drew the Gun and I love Declan Melson Addicted West. So when. Both of. When. When they asked if I wanted to do it, I was absolutely there for it. And so it was. It was. You know, it did take time. But they're both of them. I've got great songs that I really feel kind of passionately about and what they're singing about and our bands I really like. So it was, it was actually quite. Actually was a really good process for me learning other people's songs in that kind of intensive way for my own kind of creative process a bit. I've been. This year I've been working a lot. I've. I had like, I took on like a year's contract kind of full time hours so that doing quite an intense job which has been good. But you know, there wasn't a lot of kind of emotional energy left at the end of the day to kind of write as I usually would. So actually came at a really nice time because I was able to kind of take that, that kind of stuff that was going on for me during the day which. And kind of process that through other people's music and kind of. So that was, it was, it was different and it was, it was interesting and helpful and both of them write great songs. So. So lots of fun, lots of inspiration and just cool folk to hang out with as well, you know. Yeah, it's been great. [00:09:19] Speaker A: Two phenomenal, two phenomenal bands and yeah, you're going to play a European tour with Declan Mouse. Spain, France. That's bucket list stuff, surely. [00:09:31] Speaker B: Yeah, totally. Because I've not done European gigs with any of my bands so they're away just now. I did the Edinburgh show as well, which was a couple of weeks ago now. That was. [00:09:44] Speaker A: Where was that again? I said it was. Sold it but I didn't. [00:09:47] Speaker B: Yeah, Cabaret Voltaire, Cabal in Edinburgh. So yeah, that was, that's. I did that show and then they're away. You know, they've been away this kind of whole time and I'm flying over and doing their last three shows with them. So Nancy, I think you pronounce it in France, Barcelona and Madrid. So yeah, it'll be cool. It's my first time like I've done, I've done gigs outside of the UK but. But not, not in Europe. So it'll be my first time. It'll be cool. Yeah. And, and I really lovely, lovely like bunch of people to, to play music with and to hang out with. Declan's great, really, really lovely guy and super talented, doing amazing stuff, speaking about important things, you know. So all the stuff that I'm into as same as she do the Gun as well. So it was an absolute pleasure and an honor to kind of play join both of them on stage. It's. It's cool. It's been really Cool. So, yeah, main stage. [00:10:51] Speaker A: I said at the top of the show, main stage. He didn't last two years in a row last year with gyros. This year, the gun Twist. It's next year. [00:10:59] Speaker B: Well, maybe. Yeah, maybe. We'll see. You need to. Need to hit them up. Yeah. Twistettes are kind of. So most people. Oh, no. If you kind of follow Twistettes that Nikki's had some kind of health problems going on. We've really had some kind of. Between us, we've had some terrible luck the last few years with our health. So Nikki is fine. She's good, but she's just not quite there for, you know, playing. Music is fantastic and great fun. It's brilliant. But it's really hard work and it's. It's tough going. There's a lot behind the scenes that. That takes a lot out of you, especially if you're doing like, kind of touring and things like that. So I don't think touring is on the cards for the Twistettes anytime in the near future because we want to look after Nikki and make sure she's all right. We did. And we don't want to let down, you know, we don't want to let people down as well. We don't want anybody gigs and not be able to do them. Like, sadly, we. We were booked for Bearded Theory this year, but we didn't manage to do it. We did drive the. The five hours down, but then Nikki had a kind of anaphylactic reaction, so then we had to swiftly drive all the way back up and she had to go to the hospital and she was fine. She's on a bunch of different medications and it just. Just makes things a bit more difficult. But it's nothing to be crazy worried about. It's just she needs to. To take her time and take it easy. And, you know, Nikki's got a little boy, my nephew, and. And you know, family stuff as well, so sometimes you've just got to make these decisions that. That you can. You can't do everything, can you? So. And for now, it's not that Twisted won't be playing and we're not splitting up or anything like that, but it's just going at a slightly slower pace. So we'll see. We might do a couple of gigs next year and we'll just kind of see when. When we've got the. The juice back in the engine properly. Yeah. See, Stuart mentioned Mean City Fest. Yeah. And that was. I think that was maybe our only gig this year. So. [00:13:13] Speaker A: Yeah, really, it could not have, it couldn't have been one gig, surely? [00:13:17] Speaker B: I think it was one gig. Yeah. [00:13:22] Speaker A: Was a last minute cancellation. There was another festival that never happened. [00:13:29] Speaker B: Yeah, I think it was because after BRD Theory people were offering stuff and I, I, I've been turning it down because I just don't want to commit and let, let promoters down. You know, it's, you know what it's like. It's just not, it's not like we are not a band that, that really cancel unless it's a big, a big thing. So, so. And I don't want to kind of, you know, we're all spending our energy and our money doing, doing this stuff and I don't want to, I don't want a promoter to be in a bad situation because we've had to cancel. So basically that's, that's, yeah, one, one show. Yeah. Which was great. It was, it was, it was good. I think we, I don't know how much we raised actually, but we raised a bunch of money for. I've forgotten what the charity was now. I forgot. It's got it in my head. I think it was maybe the Beatson or Mary Hughes. [00:14:21] Speaker A: I think it was Beatson. I think it was. [00:14:23] Speaker B: Yeah, I did know. It's just not. That information is not being retained. [00:14:28] Speaker A: Mark's on the winter water. Well spotted. It's that time of year where it's water is cold, freshly cold, poured out of the tap. I love this time of year for, [00:14:41] Speaker B: for that is nothing. [00:14:44] Speaker A: You know what I quite like as well? Quite like the dark nights for insomnia as well. None of this bugs chirping and sunny 4am stuff. [00:14:54] Speaker B: I don't know. I've had really bad insomnia the last couple of weeks. I don't know like. And, and you're right, it should. This time of year. It shouldn't be like that. But I don't know, I've just, I've not. Yeah, I'm the same. [00:15:06] Speaker A: I've not, I've not been. [00:15:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Yes. But that's always. [00:15:10] Speaker A: They're going to put the clocks back. They're going to put the clocks back. No, that's is. This is the most pointless thing this. It's this weekend. No, it's the next weekend. [00:15:18] Speaker B: It isn't pointless though. There's like. No, you can, you can watch what happened when they tried because they tried in the 60s or something like that to not to move the clock and it was like kids going to school in the dark and they were worried that kids were Going to get. I don't know. They had people like having us let [00:15:38] Speaker A: the kids sleep in for an extra. Let everyone sleep in for an extra [00:15:42] Speaker B: skill at 10 o'. Clock. [00:15:43] Speaker A: Start school at 10. Yeah, why not? [00:15:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:48] Speaker A: I was, I watched a hang that said that it was just because a guy wanted to golf. A guy wanted to golf after. In the afternoon, in the evening. And that's why they changed the qu. Some rich qu. Some rich guy wanted to. Going as they say in the sh. They wanted around the go in the afternoon. [00:16:08] Speaker B: No, but because I think in December it's like if you didn't move the clocks, it would be dark until like 10 o' clock or something. I don't know, maybe 9 in the morning. 10 in the morning or something like that. [00:16:20] Speaker A: Supposed to start at 9:00am Starts at [00:16:22] Speaker B: 10:00am I mean, I'm up for that, but I don't think the establishment is. Is it. They don't like that kind of thing. [00:16:28] Speaker A: And if you're talking. And if you're talking about stats, then actually the heart attacks goes up 4% and car accidents goes up 6% when they change the clocks because everybody's circadian rhythms it. And then you've got all the. The wee creatures of the night, they like to. They're. They're. They think it's supposed to be quiet at that time of night that's safe to run over a road when it's not. [00:16:52] Speaker B: I thought you were meaning like people. Like night people, Night owls. Not actually. Not actual mason. [00:17:02] Speaker A: No, I mean like creatures. I mean like walking, wood kill. [00:17:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:07] Speaker A: I mean livestock while they're still live, but because they change. Because they change the circadian. Circadian rhythm, the livestock becomes stock. [00:17:17] Speaker B: Okay. I think what is it? Livestock? Not like, like cows and sheep. I don't think that's the creatures of the night. [00:17:28] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. They're live stock until they cross the road at five in the morning. Like six in the morning, thinking it's five in the morning and it's safe to cross the road. And then at 6am the livestock becomes stock. And we're doing this stupid thing. We do this dance every year. We change the clocks back and then we change the clocks forward so that an old rich guy that's long dead, this guy wanted a game of golf. [00:17:59] Speaker B: I'm gonna Google that. I don't know. I'm not sure about that, Mark. [00:18:03] Speaker A: It's factual. Check it, check it. We've got. So as well as doing all this. Right. So you've been doing that. So we kind of covered the bands we've got Minerva wakes coming back on the 30th of October. So can you just explain what's happening there? So obviously we're. We're there for the Apocalypse Theories album launch. [00:18:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:25] Speaker A: Because haven't been keeping up to date. The Apocalypse Theories have been an album launch and they've never released any music ever. I'm giving you nothing. [00:18:36] Speaker B: They've not released it. I thought they had, but no, nothing at all. [00:18:40] Speaker A: Nothing. They've never wasted anything. So it's been quite tricky trying to promote it. But I made a stupid video today, kind of meme using footage I believe from a film called. From a film I've never seen called the Matrix. And it was basically sort of release a song, make a tech talk, blah blah, blah. And I. Ironically, it's been banned for tech talk. I've been given a. I don't know I've got any trouble. I've got a big trouble in tick tock. [00:19:07] Speaker B: I think maybe what were you using songs or what was it? [00:19:12] Speaker A: Oh, it's this film called the Matrix. I don't know if you've heard that. I've never seen it. But there's a film called the Matrix and basically it was like a fighting scene. [00:19:20] Speaker B: All right. Okay. [00:19:22] Speaker A: Apocalypse here is blocking any business advice. [00:19:26] Speaker B: Right, Another one. I have seen the Matrix because I'm normal. [00:19:30] Speaker A: Yeah. Takes off. It takes all sauce. The Matrix. But anyway, Apocalypse series. I have actually heard the album. They're adding more layers. They're always adding layers. But the album is so unexpectedly brilliant. I mean it's really. It's really strange. It's not what I know that that band to be. [00:19:56] Speaker B: I've had a listen as well. Yeah. Mark sent me over. I think it's brilliant. I know what you mean because it does sound. I mean I don't think it's unexpected. It does sound like what they sound live. But it just sounds. It does sound different as well. It's like they've definitely kind of taken layers what they were doing live. And yeah, I did. I did layers to it. But it sounds great. It's really, really, really good. A mixture of like both of them are really kind of intelligent kind of wordsmiths and. And really speaking about interesting stuff and you know, so that kind of. If you're a words person, if you're a poetry person, you'll love it because it's really kind of deep and rich kind of from that perspective. But then there's also like quite a lot of like solid kind of hooks in it. Like there's a poppy kind of element to it, but kind of more in like a metaly, kind of heavy, grungy. Yeah. I don't know what it is. It's like it reminds me of like some of those, like. I don't know, you know, like popoly itself and like that kind of kind of 90s stuff. It doesn't sound like that at all, but there's something of that and then. Yeah. I don't know. I don't even know how to describe it, but it's really cool. It's really, really good. They've done an amazing job and I totally love it. Love and respect both of them as kind of individual people and artists. So to kind of hear what they've put together, it's really cool. I think everyone's going to love it. It's really good. Yeah, that's my thoughts. [00:21:42] Speaker A: Yeah, it's just great. Just. Just no more layers. I think it's ready. [00:21:49] Speaker B: Yeah, I do agree. I think we need a single. Yeah. Just because it's so good. Let's hear more. Yeah. [00:21:56] Speaker A: I think I've got some interference to make. Do you have a. Do you have head earphones? No, don't worry, don't worry. [00:22:03] Speaker B: Do somewhere. I can. If you want to. I can go and find some. If you want to. To do a bit of chat. [00:22:09] Speaker A: Okay. I think so. But Merrow folk. So we've got so Apocalypse series. 30th October with Minerva Week. I know how to do this. I'll just mute you when I'm talking. That'll fix it. Is that better, Petra? So, yeah, the. It's apocalypse theories. Minerva Weeks texture. Jackal Trades is coming back. Jackal Trades has nearly got an album. So Jackal Trades is back as well. It's eight pound advanced for schedule. Or six pound if you're a patreon of you call that radio and tell us about Manure. Tell us about Minerva Wakes and what this. Because this gig's quite an important one for you and it represents it. So I'll just unmute you now. [00:22:56] Speaker B: Yeah. So sorry. This. So what the plan is for this gig is it's going to be the last show where I kind of do the Minerva Weeks kind of show as it was. So with the cloak and all that stuff. Because for the next album, which I'm in process of writing is pretty much the songs are there, but I've got a whole bunch of. There's a whole bunch of other stuff to do kind of round about it. So it won't be out for a while. Yeah. And. And also I need to kind of finish kind of final production, Mixmaster, that kind of stuff on the songs, and then there's. There's all other stuff to add to as well. But this, I think, will be the last show where I do the kind of cloak and all that, because the next album's got a different concept and a different. A different theme, and I'll be kind of working around that. The other thing that I'm quite excited about for this show as well is that we're going to premiere the screen dance film that myself and Marie Williamson worked on. Now, probably about a year and a half ago now, we worked on this piece. Marie was studying screen dance and we worked together. I did the music and she kind of directed and filmed this really cool kind of piece of film. So we're going to premiere that on the 30th, so hopefully I'll have a little clip that I can share to give people a bit of a taste of it. But if you are there on the 30th, we'll be showing that for the first time. It's really cool. If anyone, maybe quite a few people will know Marie, she's a great kind of dancer, choreographer. She does a lot of aerial performance. If anybody's seen the more recent stuff about the flying Kaylee, that's Marie's project. So, yeah, she's a really interesting artist and it was really cool to work with her on this film. So we just kind of got together and decided we needed to kind of. To kind of get this out and kind of show people what we did, because we kind of did it and then it's like, oh, we've done that. Let's just kind of go and do other stuff. But. But it's. Let's show people and let's celebrate it a bit because sometimes you can, you know, just run. Run along and. And not kind of take the moment to kind of celebrate the stuff that you're. You've done, you know. So, yeah, so that's what I'm doing. [00:25:32] Speaker A: And Lou says I'm looking forward to the new Minerva Weeks and finding out what our next incarnation will be. Petra says, so much great stuff going on. Joe and Stephen is saying, good evening from Stalin, which actually is a nice segue, because I believe you are. You're in stolen. [00:25:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. So actually I've been working in Stirling this week, so I'm kind of back freelance now, which is great because it means you kind of get to move about and do lots of different interest. A little project which I love. So this week I have been working at the toll booth in Stirling on a little project called Gig in a Week. So it's for the young people, all different kind of ages and stages as musicians and the idea is they come in, they're in a little band and they work with a tutor to kind of pull together a couple of songs, write some songs together. My band's got a little cover and two songs that they've been working on. And then they also kind of learn along the way about light tech and poster design and do a little photo shoot. It's, it's really cool. And then on Friday they'll be doing a gig in the toll booth. So yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's a, it's a cool little project. So yeah, I've been in Stirling all week. Yeah, it's been cool to be part of. So yeah. [00:26:59] Speaker A: Oh yeah, I'm doing some live mixing here while we're talking. Yeah. So in. Obviously everybody seems to have an album coming up just now because you've got obviously every week's albums coming soon. Apocalypse Theaters is coming at the end of October, Jackal Trades is coming soon and Postco prom queens in November 23rd. I think there's going to be an announcement about that quite soon. But also Merrill Folk, my mail Keys Player of the Gyros has got an amazing band called Merrill Folk who are actually playing on the 24th of October at the Rummy Shack and you call that Radios doing the after party with More Famish and Jigsaw tiger, both amazing DJs. And yeah you, what do you make of the middle? I'm understanding as you had something to do with or what's. What's going on there. [00:27:52] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean only, only a small amount. So I did some kind of like I, I worked with Claire a little on some really early kind of pre production stuff and just a little bit of kinda, kinda back and forward, kinda having a listen to the songs, chatting, chatting through the songs with their kind of before they went into the studio and recorded them. You know there's a lot to kind of think about when you're picking what song you're going to use and just being a bit of a kind of sounding board about stuff like that. So that's that. Yeah, I did have a little, very early, early part in that. But I mean I'm not taking any credit for the album because that's all them and I, I didn't really do much other than kind of have a listen and give my opinion on. On. On the kind of raw songs. But what's been really beautiful about that, though, is that, like, I heard all those songs as either acoustic versions or really kind of really rough kind of demos of like the start of the song. So it's been really cool to kind of, you know, go from there. Then I went to see them playing most of the songs. Where was it? Old hairdressers. And heard most of them kind of played live and then to kind of then hear it as the album. So I feel like I've kind of been along for the journey of that album. Like I say, not actually really doing anything. So I'm not taking any credit at all for that. That's all them being amazing musicians and what a great collaboration and cool. What a cool thing to mix those musicians together. And I'm not surprised. It sounds so, so good. It really is. Yeah. Because I'm forgetting it's not even out yet, so people haven't heard that yet. Oh, my God, it's so good. You're all going to love it. It's just so good. Yeah. [00:29:43] Speaker A: Yeah. The Understory by Merrill Folk is actually out tomorrow on Band Camp. So if you're listening to this on the 14th and it said tomorrow it'll be on Band Camp, I think it's just staying on Band Camp for a couple of months. So get. That's the only place you can actually hear it is just now is. Will be tomorrow on M. Band Camp. There's a few singles out on all streaming platforms to give you a taste for it as it's a phenomenal collaboration. You've got your. Your bass and drums sound. They're. The boys are tight there. An amazing brass section, four part female harmonies. It's just incredible. And Freya's production as well is just sensational. [00:30:23] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean, I. I had no doubt, to be honest, because I just. All of them, all of them, I respect so much as musicians. They're just so talented. So I had no doubt. But it's still. Because it was such an interesting collaboration, I think I was just so, like. Yeah, just like excited to see what they ended up doing and it's just. It's gorgeous. It's such a gorgeous album. So it's really interesting and unique and it's gentle but also really powerful and just, just. Yeah, it's so good. Yeah. [00:31:03] Speaker A: Album of the year, perhaps, maybe. Album of the year, maybe. Yeah. That's Understory. By Meryl Folk. Check that out. And I've got a comment here. What question was Sterling mindfulness coloring in wallpaper? What color are you going to do for the elephant and the stolen mindfulness wallpaper? [00:31:28] Speaker B: Well, I'm not in Stirling now, so this is not. This is my. I got this in India. I was actually going to do the. Going to do the show in the other room, but the Internet's to going rubbish somehow, and it seems to be fine here, so. No, this is actually just. Can I zoom out a little bit? Yeah, it's pretty cool. Like a big thin elephant. Can you see? [00:31:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:31:52] Speaker B: I just had to try to find somewhere that wasn't like a bit. A bit messy, which is a bit difficult because I've been really busy. So, unfortunately, when you try and do 500 things at once, tidying up doesn't always come top of the priority. So I was like, where can I go that there's not mess? I was all set and I was like, oh, yeah, this is fine, I'll do this. And it looks so, like, nice and where I was. But then sadly, the Internet didn't work, so I had to run about and try and find a spot. So. In front of the gorgeous elephant from India. [00:32:24] Speaker A: Yeah, we're not in the city anymore. [00:32:27] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:32:32] Speaker A: Internet is hard to come by when you leave the city. Although, having said that, is Glasgow Central the worst place in the world for Internet? Every time I go by all these towns in the middle of nowhere, my phone works fine and then when I get into Central Station, nothing. [00:32:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I do actually agree. I think Glasgow's terrible for the Internet, at least for me. Yeah. Why is that? What's that about? And it's not like Glasgow does have Internet. I feel like tourists must think, oh, just. Glasgow just doesn't have. Doesn't have Internet. It doesn't have good Internet. But it does have good Internet, just not in the center where you'd think it would. Yeah. Bizarre. Bizarre stuff. [00:33:24] Speaker A: There is a theory. The theory is that 10 years ago, Glasgow gave a contract to some sort of Internet provider who made us have the best 2G in the world at that point in time. And then everything changed and now we're still stuck. And I mean, you do get on there and people's faces and stuff. It's just phone Internet. Just as more people using each tower say, Stephen. Yeah, but I mean, it doesn't happen in any other city. And you said the metal folk, that is. Yeah. Middle folk, by the way. No, no, capital M. I got in trouble For Claire, for capital M, it's either no capital M, it's all caps or no caps, according to Claire, which just pointless, to be honest. Sorry. Something that wind up a graphic designer. [00:34:25] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I, I can see that lots of people are not going to do that probably, but I'll do it. But it is one of those things that, you know, I think that. I think they're going to just have to correct. Lots of people. Lots of festivals that I'm sure they're going to get booked for, they'll be having to. Yeah, having to correct. But, you know, it's an artistic choice and I kind of get it because it probably like, it'll be how it looks, how the word actually looks. So I get it. [00:34:58] Speaker A: Yeah. All the letters should be the same size. Something like. [00:35:02] Speaker B: Yeah, maybe. Yeah, I think I get it. Yeah. No Jack, no Jaggy M's, maybe. I don't know. That's a question for Claire. [00:35:13] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay, we'll ask. We'll put that to Claire. So what else we got? We need. We need. We need a clip. So this is the thing, what I'm starting to learn is, is that you need a clip so that you can put on social media so the people will check out the podcast. So let's just make it completely organic and natural. Oh, imagine you lost your bass guitar and you ended up in the BBC. Let's try that one. Joe, have you ever lost your bass guitar and ended up in the BBC? [00:35:54] Speaker B: Well, funnily enough, actually, yes, I have. I don't know if you saw. I shared it recently because it came up in my memories and I say something, I say something. Oh, I can't remember it. I wish you'd said you were going to ask about this because I would have pulled up and reminded myself what I said, but I remember like. So I got. I spoke on the phone with this woman from the BBC about it, telling her about. So basically, if anyone doesn't know what happened, I was on my way back from London after a Twistx gig, me and Nikki, and we may have drank more wine than we should have done and weren't really paying attention to much. We're having an absolute ball to ourselves. But my guitar was just positioned up in the roof rack, the. The rack thing just kind of beside. Beside us and someone got up at Motherwell and took the bass and got off. And luckily when I. When we got up at Glasgow to kind of to go and I noticed my bass wasn't there. There was, there was people that were sat behind Us that said, oh, someone took a guitar and got off at Motherwell. So we knew exactly where he'd got off the train and ended up. Post, went home, posted it on social media and it became a massive thing. It got shared loads. So much so that actually the guy that definitely deliberately stole the base ended up messaging me on social media and saying, oh, I thought the bass was lost and I took it for safekeeping, which he had. There's no way he did that. That's a way. Aye, right. But he said, oh, I've got your base, I can get it back to you. So we had a kind of a strange interaction where myself, Mark and Tam, the van went. Now, Mark couldn't speak because he just had his coco polyp removed and Tam doesn't really speak that much. So it was just like kind of Mark and Tab stabbed and kind of growling as I kind of walked over and got this bass guitar, which we just. We arranged to pick up in the car park of Celtic kind of football. I don't know why. I think probably because it was. It was like an obvious place. I don't really know why that was the location we'd picked, but we did, we picked there. So we kind of, yeah, went and had this kind of strange interaction and he's going, oh, so have you got any gigs coming up? And like, you try to be all friendly, like, almost like expecting me to be like, oh, thank you so much for. You've really. You've really saved the day by stealing my guitar, mate. But I was not. I wasn't having it, I wasn't letting him away with it. But. So anyway, I got the bass back, but because it had been shared so much on social media, the BBC contacted me and wanted to speak to me about it. Also, David Blair did a crowdfunder for it and raised the money to replace my base, which all then got refunded to people because I got my base back. But in the BBC article, it says something like, do you remember what I said? There's a quote, it's dead funny. Like, I think I shared it on Facebook maybe about like two or three weeks ago. And actually, you know, it's funny because at the time I didn't even really notice that. That it was kind of odd. But it's just that I'm quoted in. In the BBC saying something. [00:39:24] Speaker A: Yeah, this is it. The thing is, is that it's. I'll just bring it on the screen just now because not only did you. Did they do a story about it, but the story was that you get reunited with missing bass, which is really strange. I mean, I don't know why this was. It must have been a slow news day. But within days, I was. You said. I was devastated. It's always pretty horrendous to have something stolen. The bass is pretty important to me on a personal level, but it's really important to the band sound as well. We've got two quite important gigs coming up and I thought, I can't believe this has happened now. And in the PC post online, she said, if anyone tries to sell you a beautiful cream Fender Mustang base, and can you please give them a swift punch in the face and rescue my guitar for me? Yes. So that's what. Punch in the face. [00:40:18] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Yeah, that's the one I was thinking, because I. I just don't even remember, like, thinking that was at the time, thinking that was edgy or anything. If I look back, I'm like, oh, my God, Joe. And the BBC just put it in, giving them a Smith punch to the face. Oh, God. Funny. Funny stuff. [00:40:38] Speaker A: And as I said, I could. I couldn't speak. I couldn't speak at all. So you came back to tell me all about the bass missing. And I was using an app, like a robot voice app that just to speak for me. So. And then. Yeah, and then that was. That was a long month. Five weeks. I couldn't talk. [00:41:01] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:41:03] Speaker A: There has to be a. There had to be a. There had to be a roadie in South Korea. [00:41:08] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't even think you had the app at that point. I think that. That you were. I think you were just typing. Typing responses, actually, at that point you hadn't worked out there was an app. [00:41:21] Speaker A: But yeah, yeah, I figured that there was an app when I had to play a gig at Drygate because I'd never canceled a gig before. So I decided to play a gig by typing in and then activating a robot voice to. To do my lyrics for me. So I did a cover version of Fitter Happier by Radiohead and my first rap song that the rest of the band slagged me for because I was. They call me out going. Because I'm always going out. So we got there in the end. [00:41:47] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I know. Yeah, that was. Yeah. God, what a crazy bunch of stuff to happen at the. At the roundabout the same time, isn't it? But. But your voice is. Your voice is fine now, though. It's holding up. It's not. It's. It's. It was. It was all good. [00:42:04] Speaker A: It's better. It's better than it was. It's better than it was. And it was just strange walking about South Korea because it was a kind of like a fever dream, waking up in South Korea and only being there for a few days. You just played a couple of gigs. We ate some really strange food, drank too much beer, and I didn't say one word to anybody the whole time I was there. But nobody would have understood me in South Korea anyway. [00:42:28] Speaker B: No, no, no, no. You were able to speak in South Korea. You are. You were able to talk. Ah. You were talking to people. You definitely were 100. Remember we met that guy that worked behind the bar, the French guy that was called Mark McGee that worked in the bar in South Kore was speaking. Remember? Look at him. Mark McGee, the barman in South Korea. French bar. [00:42:55] Speaker A: That's right. Why was he. Why is he a French guy with that name? [00:42:58] Speaker B: I. I remember Scottish or someone mad. I don't know. [00:43:03] Speaker A: Well, he was talking to me. I don't remember talking to him. [00:43:06] Speaker B: You were talking. You definitely were. [00:43:09] Speaker A: I remember getting filmed by some Koreans who wanted to. They were trying to take the piss by giving me the spiciest noodle. Kind of like a big giant port. No thing. Not, not, not a golden wonder port. I mean. I mean porto in the broadest sense. Like a tanoi system in pa. I don't know about Korean porto. And it was danger. It was a danger noodle. And I ate it and it was fine. It was. They were filming me to see my reaction and I had to pretend it was a bit spicier just so that they could go viral in their Korean website. So I kind of pretended it was a wee bit spicier than it actually was. But then I was really worried because this was only a month after the operation. They said no spicy food, and I've ate the spiciest thing that Korea's got to offer. [00:43:54] Speaker B: I mean, I thought those pot noodles were pretty spicy, to be honest. I think you were quite. You were quite gallas. You're maybe a. I wonder if you were a Korean meme back in the day before. I mean, were memes even a thing back then? Was that. I can't remember if that was. No. Memes have been around for years, actually, haven't they? But not in a way that, like, things didn't go viral and, well, they did, I suppose. I don't know, maybe you're a Korean viral meme back in the. Whenever that was. [00:44:22] Speaker A: And maybe they. They gently teased the. The French bar guy. Because he's got the same name as the guy who ate the. The Pot Noodle. Yeah, it could be. I mean, even if we didn't have memes back then, Korea definitely had memes, because going into South Korea was like going into the future. And I'll tell you what, they didn't let. Unlike Glasgow Central. So there. [00:44:44] Speaker B: Yeah, no, it was. I mean, it was a cool thing to do, like. And that's. So that's why it's quite. It's quite nice to kind of go and do. Do some touring in Europe and next week, actually, it is that I'm going. So it's nice to do that because we. We kind of did that, I think. Was that 2016 or 2017? No, maybe 2017, 2018. We did that and then obviously lockdown kind of put a stop to any of that kind of progress. And then, you know, we never quite. Quite got back with my back. And then, you know, Nikki's health. We've just had a bit. The twisted. I've just had a bit of a shocker, really, health wise. I think probably the next stop for us is the Menopause album. That definitely has to happen, so we will be making that happen. But. But not. It won't. It probably won't be for a little bit yet, but it must happen. I feel like they just did like a. There was a show. What was it called? About, like a. A band of menopausal women or something. It was really good. What was it called? [00:45:47] Speaker A: Hot. [00:45:48] Speaker B: I think it was called Hot Flash or something like that, actually. I don't know. Did you see it? [00:45:53] Speaker A: No, I didn't. Sorry. [00:45:54] Speaker B: Yeah, it was good. It's good. I can't remember. It was maybe. Was it BBC or Netflix or something like that? But, yeah, we've got that. That's the next. The next stop for the Twistettes, I think. But, yeah, give Nikki. But Healing time first. We'll just get. Let's, like really let the fire get going in our bellies. Not that we've not already got that, but. [00:46:16] Speaker A: Yeah, I think you're all right for fire. Have you got. There's another band, though. There's another band. You. You've been doing something you've started. Have you seen that? A comment from Lily. I believe that's Lily for Post Cold Prom Queen. That's another incredible album. Post Cold Prom Queen. I think the album's out in November 23rd. Put the details in the. The box. Lily, if you've. If you've got anything to say about it. I Think the new single came out today and the album's on the 23rd of November, but feel free to correct me. But yes, the. The Postcode Prom Queen album I've managed to listen to and it's incredible. Mixing Scottish Gaelic music, the. The traditional music with the futuristic sound of. Of PC PQ Industries. But yeah, you're doing something with Lily and Becky and Claire. [00:47:02] Speaker B: Something like that, yeah. Yeah. So I've not heard the post Cold Problem screen album. I can't wait to hear it. I'm not. And I've not listened to that single yet, so I'm going to do that as soon as I get off of. Off of here. Actually, that's one I can't wait for as well. And I will definitely be at the album launch. But, yeah, so we've been. Lily, myself, Becky Wallace and Claire Duffin have jammed, had like two or three little kind of jams and we're putting together something. It sounds good and yeah, I'm buzzing to see kind of what comes from. From that over the next few months. So we're all busy. We've all got loads of other stuff that we're doing, but it just feels like too good a combo to. Not. Not kind of. Kind of keep. Keep going with. So I. I'm. I'm excited with that. We had. Our last rehearsal was maybe like four weeks ago or something like that, and we came up with a belter. I think we've got our sound, we've got what we're going to do. It's cool. And again, it's just. I just love making that. That's been something that's been really nice this year is making. Getting together and making music with just such a great bunch and people that I really respect musically and play in a really different way and write in a different way than I do. So it's been really nice for me this year and what's probably quite a transitional point for me musically, with gyros being no longer and Gyro Babies is always a fantastic place to be playing with different brilliant musicians because there was always somebody new kind of coming in, which was, you know, you've probably. You know, it's not necessarily the best continuity, but it's great to, like, meet lots of cool people and get inspiration from what other people bring to kind of what you're doing. So that was always a really kind of special bit of gyros for me, even though I understand from a logistical perspective maybe quite stressful for you, but I quite liked it. But. So it Feels like there's been an element of that this year with kind of she Drew the Gun Declan and playing with Becky. Becky, Claire and Lily as well. And I've really, really been enjoying that. I think it's like brought a lot to kind of what where I'm going with Minerva Wakes as well. Just. And not just. I mean actually I've got Minerva weeks but I've also got. I've got an album of kind of the start of some other songs that may be future Minerva Wakes or it may be something else. I don't know but I feel like more so those songs were inspired by playing with all these kind of people this year and. And kind of just. Yeah, just. Just exploring and kind of being maybe not having the pre. There's something nice about not having the pressure that there is of Twistettes and Gyros that it's like I've got you know, more so to a set where it's like my project and I'm doing this and same in my ever wakes. It was. It was nice to kind of be kind of just sitting in the background just enjoying it. Yeah. So I don't know, does that make sense? I feel like I'm in a bit of a sideways right. [00:50:19] Speaker A: No, it makes a lot of sense. And you know I've fun with recording the new Jackal Trades album and there may be a new band hopefully for next year. But there's new Jackal Trades album, new single out next. In fact they'll put the link for the description for the new Jackal Trade single which is out next Thursday I believe. But yeah, the. That that will be coming soon also. So ster saying bring back the Gyros. No, no. 10 years. I'll do a 10 year comeback if I can stay alive to 50, [00:50:56] Speaker B: I feel like. Tell us a bit about the Jackal Trades album. I want. I want to hear a little more about that. Add a bit your new idea for what. [00:51:03] Speaker A: What you want to do and look loose and bring back the generals as well. Gyros will come but everyone just stay alive. 10 minute. 10 minute. 8. 9 years. 9 years. Something like that. It will cut. I'm sure. I'm sure they better come back to her. A greatest hatch to her just on that point as well. If anybody's got the Sunday replacement service double cd, we've made some good ground in that. I've finally got the track listing. The laptop was broke, it delayed me. But we've managed to get another 10 bonus tracks and so it's 42 tracks over two CDs. The Sunday replacement service is on. Band camp, very limited edition. I think there's only going to be 50 made, so get one if you want one of them. They will be sent out. I think we're talking next week. I think next week. I think they'll be next week. So thank you to everybody. And also what we saying. Oh, yeah, but Jackal Trades Home. It's really good. I've enjoyed it. I've just been recording. I've just been recording from the home and collaborating with lots of different beat makers and singers just remotely, for the most part. And that album, I think I was thinking the Burn Supper in January, I should be ready for then. Although I've not confirmed that for sure. I'm at this stage now, but I think it's actually finished. But maybe I could change it. And I'm thinking maybe I should just leave it, walk away and then move on to the new thing. Which I kind of. I don't want to give away the name of the band yet, but I'm working on a whole new thing. But I can't, I can't talk about that yet because it's still too early. I don't want to jinx it. I don't why I jinx it, but it's, it's, it's. I'm excited for it. It's a totally different thing. But Jackal Trades feels. I just felt like. I just love these songs. I just wanted to write. I'm supposed to be writing a book, but I get distracted and I end up making an album instead. [00:52:55] Speaker B: And that's okay. That's how it works, isn't it? It's like you need to give yourself a different thing. You need to give yourself something that you are meant to be doing to then be able to do another thing. So that's a little hack. Is that lie to you? Like I lie to myself about when I'm meant to be places, when it's really important that I'm not late because I'm a very bad timekeeper. So I. I lie to myself so much that I genuinely think, you know, maybe I meant to be there at 10:30. I genuinely actually think I need to be there at 10. So that when I'm late and I'm there at 20 past 10, I'm actually early. But it's the same as, you know, like if you need to work on your book, then really lie to yourself that something else is more important. That, like, you know, whatever, make something up, you take a notice. [00:53:46] Speaker A: I'M writing this din [00:53:48] Speaker B: works for me like if I'm meant to be doing something I will not do it. I will do something else. So if you that and that's why you've written a Jackal Trades album, why you're probably trying to write a book. That's why in my opinion if you [00:54:01] Speaker A: try to you just you just end up writing a word that you write a sentence that sounds really good and you're like oh that's a good sentence that could be a song and then that that's what's so that's why the novel has has been working going slower but the album I've made an album by accident and I'm really pleased with it. So I I've said pre save the it means new but that's a new single and it's an amazing producer called Ligo who's sadly no longer with us. He made the beat and well but a little help from our famish and conscious AKA Wav machine and then we've got the bold Kieran Mack out of retirement for a one off verse as well. So yeah I'm looking forward to people hearing that Martyr True artist amazing boss but thank you very much Petra. That's very sweet of you to see that. We are nearly an hour Joe, is there anything that you would like to add or obviously we want everyone to go want to see everybody. I was planning on just hibernating the winter away but everybody's making an album Metal Folk next week so you call that radio had to do the after party. It's Mark and Shannon's album launch Apocalypse Theorist next week the weekend after. So that's the 30th having a Halloween party Jackal Trades and Minerva Weeks were both going to be there trying out some new stuff. Is there anything else you'd like to talk about at this point [00:55:27] Speaker B: to mention on the 30th texture is also playing which is which is cool so Minerva wakes Texture, Jackal Trades and Apocalypse Theorist and it'll be good so and as I say my Minerva Wake so I may see there's a chance that I may be able to let you hear one song from the new Minerva Wake stuff as well. Most of it isn't isn't kind of in a position to for ears but I might do we'll see how how I go I might be able to let out one song. It may not be completely finished but it might feel like it's ready to kind of for years but we'll see so maybe one Song from the new Minerva album, the Last of this. The kind of the cloak Minerva Goddess vibe and the premiere of the Minerva Wakes. It's not Minerva Wakes film. It's called Together we Form a Whole screen dance film where I made the music as Minerva Wakes. So we will be premiering that. I will be putting that on the Minerva Weeks YouTube channel and properly at some point as well. But it'll be after the gig so if you want to. To see it and before it's up then. Then come along. But yeah, Texture, Jackal Trades and Apocalypse theorists. So yeah, hopefully come and celebrate Halloween with us. That would be nice. But yeah, I think that's it. I mean [00:57:02] Speaker A: a lot. And if anyone happens to be in in Non Nancy or Wilfred. For anyone you might not know that, but for anyone who's a Celtic fan, they know who Wilfred Nancy is. Nonce Non. So that's. Yeah, that. That you're going to be in Barcelona, Madrid with Declan Welsh and the decadent west and then you'll be back in time for the Halloween party. Paul said if anyone's looking for a day off the GFT screening since yesterday. Untold Story of Scotland's girl bands on 18 of October. Yes, that. That's a great documentary by Carla. Definitely worth checking it. I won't be there, I don't think. But also 17th of October we've got two gigs on. We've got two other gigs coming on this Saturday. The folk drama and Rebecca Radical will be on Port Valentine at the Anchor. You call that Radio Free entry. And then the 14th of November going to Rossi for Attila the Stock Broker. The legendary punk poet will support for myself. I'll be doing a bit of spoken word from the F by Magic Book and Callum Beard will be playing some songs as well. So that'll be a good night as well. On 14 November, if anyone fancies gone Rossi as well. That's worth mentioning, I think. I think it's worth mentioning as well. [00:58:24] Speaker B: Yeah. Sounds good. Lots of stuff coming up. [00:58:26] Speaker A: Yeah, too much stuff. And there may. There may be an announcement about a Postcode Prom Queen album launch. Lily's not giving me any more information there. I think it's under wraps. But I think there is going to be an announcement from Postcode Prom Queen as well. So it's all happening, I want to [00:58:42] Speaker B: say Monday 23rd November. But is that. That might not be correct. It's a Monday night. You. [00:58:50] Speaker A: I don't know. I think it's under wraps because it's an embargo. [00:58:54] Speaker B: Oh, sorry. [00:58:56] Speaker A: Have we still got the exclusive banner? [00:58:59] Speaker B: Oh, my God. I'm sorry, Lily. I thought you meant. You didn't. You couldn't remember when it was. Oh, sorry. Maybe that's. That might not even be correct. No, that. [00:59:08] Speaker A: That might be wrong. [00:59:09] Speaker B: It might be wrong, but maybe just put it in. [00:59:12] Speaker A: Maybe put the 23rd of November in your diaries anyway, just in case. [00:59:16] Speaker B: Sorry, I thought you meant that. That she. She wasn't there anymore or something and she was. Sorry, Lily. [00:59:27] Speaker A: 23rd of November. Maybe it'll be in the 23rd of November. Maybe it won't be. Who knows? Who knows? [00:59:33] Speaker B: God. Sorry. Anyway, that sounds like a good time for me to. That's me kicked out the band. Oh, God. [00:59:45] Speaker A: Yes, you can announce it. [00:59:46] Speaker B: Okay. Okay. Sorry, Lily. You can't erase it. Okay, that's fine. Am I right? Is it the 23rd? That is really creepy. If I have actually remembered the. The. I am right. Oh, my God, what a weirdo I am. Sometimes I don't remember loads of stuff, but then just the weirdest things stay in my. No, that. I mean, I'm quite excited about that album launch, so it's not that weird, but. But just, you know, I can't remember really important things, but then there's just things that I hone in on. Yeah. [01:00:15] Speaker A: And it's. And it's. And I can. I can exclusively review as well. The album is superb. I'll listen to it Walking by the Sea. And it's an incredible piece of work. So just some really good Scottish trad. Futuristic sounds. It's just a nice melting pot of Scots and. In Scottish Gaelic. And I think the new single's out just now. That you can do. No, we just haven't made an Instagram post yet, but it's gone out in the newsletter. Okay. So it's just not. The world is getting out there. [01:00:48] Speaker B: Phew. Your big moment, Lily, to announce it. And I'm just like. [01:00:54] Speaker A: Oh. Anyways, anyone else's secrets or gossip you want to review? [01:01:00] Speaker B: Yeah, let me. Okay. Right. What is a whole bub year? [01:01:09] Speaker A: Okay. The Memory Lady. Thank you very much, Jody Arc. Look forward to the spooky Minerva waking up from a spooky slumber. [01:01:22] Speaker B: Yes. [01:01:22] Speaker A: On the 30th of October. And enjoy Spain and France with Declan Welsh and the Declan West. [01:01:28] Speaker B: Yeah. Thank you very much. Yeah, cheers for having me, Mark. I appreciate it. And I'll see you on the 30th, if not before. [01:01:34] Speaker A: See, I'll see you on the 30th for sure. [01:01:38] Speaker B: Bye. [01:01:39] Speaker A: Thanks for. Slash. You call that radio? Best show says Stuart. That's the best show. Thank you, Paul. Thank you, Stuart. Thank you, Lily. Thank you, Petra. Thank you, Ellie. Thank you, everybody. Steven. Bye, [01:02:19] Speaker B: Sa. Oh, it's fine. You. Take me. It.