'Soapyfest' w/ Mickey 9s, Colonel Mustard, Girobabies

[00:00:01] Speaker A: Nine years ago we played the barrel in ballroom nine years ago. And it's all happening again next Sunday 31st August for Soapy Fest which was is going to be taking place at the Barans from 6 o' clock to 11 o' clock next Sunday or this Sunday if you're listening to it later on the 31st of August. The lineup includes Colonel Mustard and the Dijon 5, who I believe the Colonel's here. Hello, John. Hello. [00:00:35] Speaker B: How you doing, Mark? [00:00:37] Speaker A: It also includes Dougie for the Mickey Nines so Mickey Names will be playing as well and the Twistettes will be there. The Filthy Tongues will be there. I believe there's going to be some special guests that haven't been announced yet but it's going to be hosted by Gavin Mitchell AKA Bobby the Barman for Still Game. We're going to have a Phil Jupiter's doing the changeover tunes, Warren Starry sky kicking things off and there's a secret special guest that. Is there, Is there a secret? It's not all secret, John. In fact you'd tell us who else is playing as well. [00:01:13] Speaker B: I don't think, I don't think it's secret. Ken McCluskey for the Blue Bells is going to be finishing the night off so I'm sure it'll be very real the world vibes at the end with everybody up there and getting involved and singing along. I don't know who's going to be Bob D. That's just going to be looking like what's going on here. [00:01:33] Speaker C: But. [00:01:36] Speaker A: If it's, if it's young at heart. Oh, how is the heart? Depends if it's high notes. If it's high notes I'll probably, that'll probably be me. But we're all doing a James cover as well and I don't think we're, we're going to leak what we're doing but we, we did actually, we did perform or James covering Friday night just as a warm up. So if you were at the gig, if you're at the Jeremy Corbin gig, which nobody believes it be. Nobody believed that we're playing a gig with Jeremy Corbin. So. And then I showed proof of Jeremy Corbin introducing us and everybody's saying it's AI. So we're looking in a post truth. Post truth world for sure now. So. But you've got, you've got a couple of guests John, you've got as well. Who else? You've got the Lorettes. [00:02:17] Speaker B: The Lorettes are coming up and for Dope Sick Fly, I think Becky Wallace is going to come up and sing Wild Flowers Boys as well or just message Becky today. I know Sophie loved Becky stuff and I. She. She'll be a great addition and you two better be coming up for a better. These are not the drugs. You're looking forward with us as well. [00:02:38] Speaker A: Well, I. I'm off. I'll probably be up for it, I think. I love. I love doing a wee cameo. As you know. I don't. I don't even know if. If they do. If the Mickey Nines even invite me on stage. I just sort of appear sometimes. [00:02:51] Speaker B: I like the fact that some. Sometimes you don't know if Mark's at a gig or usually you do, but sometimes he just appeals at the start. These are not the. Oh, there's Mark. [00:03:02] Speaker A: Yeah, I just saw someone's in I'm a conversation and I just say oh, that's my tune, I've got to go. And it's like I've not actually been officially invited on the stage but yeah, that. Well, I. I'll try and do all three Cameos are fun because Cameos the feels. No, there's no pressure that there will be pressure before the actual gig for the band. We've got some special guests as well. I'm not going to say we are starting lineup as yet, but we've got some special guests. We'll keep that a surprise. But yeah, the. The Bar is. I feel like. I feel like I was playing the Bar is nine years ago for us anyway. I think that we kind of peak too soon and everything else has just been filler ever since. That's how good a venue is. Yeah, that was. That was my name, my personal network. What's it like for you guys playing the bars? [00:03:49] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean obviously amazing. I think we played it the same night that you last played. Maybe. Or maybe you've played it since then. I think actually Mark, I think you must have played it since then. But we've played it once before and it was obviously amazing. I think in a way it was kind of the coolest part was just being backstage and being like thinking about all the people that have been in this backstage. But you know what I mean. That for me was pretty cool. But yeah, it's some of the best gigs I've ever been to in my life have been at the barand. [00:04:18] Speaker A: So yes, it's as genuinely when we say the best venue in the world. If there's anyone that's never been. It's quite hard to explain but. And. And I've always Thought that it's not like an. Like an older age thing, but it's like, obviously I can't be bothered with 50, 000 people a gig or anything like that. And it just feels like bar is just the perfect amount of people, the perfect size for you to have a big enough a crowd roaring. But there's still. It still feels a little space. You can still buy a paint without queuing for ages and stuff like that. [00:04:55] Speaker C: Yeah, I think it. It has that combination of it being an intimate atmosphere, even though there's a lot of people there. I don't know what the actual capacity is, but it feels 2,200. [00:05:07] Speaker A: 2,000. 200. [00:05:08] Speaker C: 2,000. [00:05:09] Speaker B: So I think it's 1900, is it? [00:05:11] Speaker A: No, I think it's. It's a 1900, but there is a little bit of extra room for artist, crew. [00:05:22] Speaker B: I. Or total capacity. [00:05:24] Speaker A: Okay, yeah, I think, yes, I think, yeah, yeah, I think it's 1900. Tickets can be done. But I think. I think that's my understanding. But you're right, 1900 is. Or 2200. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, anybody. But my understanding is you can get over 2,000 in there. But I think that does include the. The workers. [00:05:43] Speaker C: It's got the iconic history and the sort of retro decor, which is obviously pretty cool. But yeah, I think maybe that's the key thing is. Well, it's also Glasgow, the Glasgow audiences and I think a lot of the great touring acts of the world, they hear about this venue in the Glasgow audiences and they want to play it. I think LCD sound system was probably the best gig I ever saw at the Barrowlands when I was about 18 with no money. I had a tenor and I managed to buy a ticket off a tout for a tenor and then that was, you know, no more money for the rest of the night. But yeah, it was amazing. But yeah, as you say, like roughly 2,000 people, but it kind of feels like a 500 cap venue in a way. I think maybe that's the key thing about it that makes that amazing. [00:06:31] Speaker A: Yeah, well, Alchemist says bars is a big gig, but you don't need to watch a screen rather than the stage. Which is a good point. [00:06:38] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:06:41] Speaker A: Mark Gyro's guitarist. Mark. All right, looking forward to show. I'm looking to expand my Cameo cv, so let me know if there's any openings. And John, who does your hair? It asks Greg. [00:06:54] Speaker B: Just. I combed my hair for a change, Greg, so. But I'm. I'm on. I'm on the Internet. So I better comb it. [00:07:02] Speaker A: I don't. That doesn't bother me, actually. [00:07:05] Speaker B: My wee Turkish barber, if you want the actual answer. But he always tries to cut these bats off and I always need to go, no, no, no. I like. I like to be long bits. [00:07:17] Speaker A: The Duke street haircut. Famous ju. Street haircut. I remember one time there's about seven of us all walking about with the same haircut because it's the same guy. It doesn't really matter what you ask for. You're getting that short back in size and you're getting the number of his choosing. So I. Yeah. So it's so Baran's Sunday. And what. What's everyone been up to and what in the last nine years? What have you been up to for nine years, John? All. All. [00:07:50] Speaker B: I. That's in that. Most most recently, I'm back at uni doing a cognitive behavioral therapy course. I was actually talking to Dougie about this when we were down at Aaron. We ended up talking about, I think Carol Young for about two hours watching the. [00:08:06] Speaker C: Apologies. [00:08:07] Speaker B: Creative matters. No, it was good. Good chat. Oh, always lovely to catch up with you, mate. So I. That's. That's my life. I'm a football coach. My son's team drew to each yesterday and it was against my. My old area, Moody's Burn Bridge end. So I remember getting beat to now. Kirk. Hi, Duggy. I know we were playing that. I don't know. You're. You're that neck of the woods. [00:08:32] Speaker A: I just actually like to use this opportunity to announce that I've actually officially retired from international football because of my foot injury. So, you know, just forget about me. I'm. I'm retiring now, but I'm all right. [00:08:46] Speaker B: I'd lost to the game. [00:08:51] Speaker A: I'm actually. I've been having so much FOMO as they call it, a bit Soul Face, because I really wanted to go. And it's the first gig ever canceled is Jackal Trade is supposed to play yesterday, but then I just seen a. I just got a message. There's cryptic. I don't know if you know cryptic. [00:09:07] Speaker C: The. [00:09:08] Speaker A: The mc, the producer, he broke his foot in four places at Soulfest. So I'm now kind of starting to be glad I didn't do that because I obviously played that. I played a gigging Friday, but I've just been sticking. The trick is to stick to flat floors and I'll be okay. [00:09:25] Speaker B: And obviously, how did that feel canceling a gig for the first time? [00:09:29] Speaker A: Because I know it's Brilliant. I feel like I just want to cancel everything. I feel this is. This is why I never cancel the gig. Because I remember when I used to work in call centers and stuff. If you take a day off, the week just flies in. And I just thought I'll just end up canceling all the gigs because I know, I understand. I can actually relate to my friends that do cancel all the time because it's like nothing bad really happened. I just. I just. I just cooked some dinner and rested my foot and it was fine. But I was freaked out though. It was. It was a. Was a big decision. So I've been stressed out about it for about. Well since it happened. That was the 28th of July. So I've been thinking about it since then. But now that it's actually done and I canceled the gig, I feel great. Apart from the bars, I feel like canceling everything else. So we got Equinox Festival and then we've got a tour of Ireland and it all seems like a lot of work, you know, I mean, I feel. [00:10:29] Speaker B: Like too old for that. [00:10:32] Speaker A: No, genuinely, I think it's just time to go on hiatus. I mean, people don't believe me when I'm saying I'm doing that, but you've. [00:10:40] Speaker B: Said that a lot of times, Mark. [00:10:42] Speaker A: To be fair, I've never said what. What I said was I was making the last album and that is the last album. Dreams are Mental out last week, by the way. For anyone who's not heard it yet, it's on all platforms. Yeah, no, it was the last album. But then obviously you put so much work and money in an album, you've got to tour it a wee bit. So this feels like the. The. The final year. But obviously ideas are subject to change, of course. But also another reason was as well is I was just. I suppose it's the sort of getting older. I think there's a few things that have changed a wee bit. On the plus side, is that because we're playing new songs, it feels much better and I'm enjoying it again. I've not been getting. Is anxious before gigs for some reason as well because that was kind of happening a wee bit. But I've been kind of enjoying all the gigs this year. [00:11:30] Speaker B: Good. [00:11:30] Speaker A: Maybe because I feel like it's like I'm just trying to save at the moment. [00:11:34] Speaker B: The lineup's been pretty solid as well recently, hasn't it? [00:11:38] Speaker A: That does. That does help. Yeah, pretty much. A full. Same. Same lineup for about a. Over for a couple of years now, for probably Two years. Because I think Jenny joined us in drums at Beautiful two years ago. Probably bang on. Maybe a bit older. In fact over two years ago. And then the only thing we've really switched around has been my Mao and Josephine Sellers have been swapping around in keys and they're both brilliant. So it's just like for like. And. But yeah, so Friday we played with both of them because obviously it was the bars time, but obviously both want to play the bars and you can't choose. So I was like, do. My idea was to have one of them do the first half and wanted me to do the second half. But then they came up with an idea that they could do it together and I went, will that work? And they said they think it would. So I just trusted their judgment and it sounded incredible. On Friday. It was really. It was a. It definitely. It's added. It's a bigger sound we've got. [00:12:32] Speaker B: I was going to ask you what. What was it like meeting Jeremy Corbyn? [00:12:36] Speaker A: Right, okay. [00:12:37] Speaker B: The UB40 thing. That was the closest thing you could think of has. When he was into music. [00:12:47] Speaker A: No, I think he's still in music. I mean, that's why he's got a charity called Music for the Many. But yeah, we agreed to this week. Months and months ago. Months and months ago. And it was like the charities about saving independent venues, helping, you know, children in poverty to get the ability to learn. Every child being able to learn an instrument if they want or, you know, that kind of thing. So it was a really. It's a really good charity. And I thought, right, yeah, we'll do it. Why not? Well, actually I said, can everyone do it? And everyone wanted to do it, apart from Joe, who was doing in a green belt festival. [00:13:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:22] Speaker A: And. But everybody else said they were right up for it. So I was kind of. I was kind of hoping they wouldn't be able to do it, but consider I had to get Alex in. In base. But he was. He was brilliant. He smashed it. But yeah, meeting Jerry. So I put a video. Yes. People didn't believe that we were playing with Jeremy Corbyn. They thought I was at it. So they didn't turn up to the gig. And then they were like, why didn't you tell me the real Jeremy Corbin was going to be there? And then I've had other people like Robbie. Robbie Gun, the original. Well, older gyros guitarist of the who took Utopia era. He messaged me saying, is this AI? So I be getting messages saying that it's. That it's AI but no, it was dead nice, man. I mean I think it did a lot. It already did. You know, it's like his life must be like a Charlie Brooker episode. He just did a spoke at a strike, given a speech, probably did about 10 TV interviews and then he's just introducing everybody and he posts some photos with all the bands I couldn't really get. I've got to do a proper show about this tomorrow actually. I've gathered my thoughts because obviously I'm getting. I don't use Tick Tock very often but I uploaded that Jeremy Cumminson they like the updated version of UB40 and it's the first thing I've ever had. I don't know if it counts as viral but it's got about 5,000 views which is. I've only got about 200 followers so it's a lot for me. And it's just like 200 angry right wingers saying that how much they hate Jeremy Corbin. [00:14:46] Speaker B: They really do hate him, don't they? It's unbelievable but it makes you think, yeah that this guy, this guy must be doing something right after this amount of right wing else absolutely despise him. [00:15:00] Speaker A: And I don't know who it is. I don't know how many of these people are obviously I'm not going through their other profile so I don't know. But some of them are obviously bots. [00:15:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:08] Speaker A: And some of them will be well I guess real people that just hate Jeremy Corbin so much that the algorithm says here's some Jeremy, quite some rage bait for you. Enjoy. But yeah, I mean I think that obviously then there's other side of it is I've got people that are very left leaning but they're independent supporters who are giving me a wee bit of for it as well. [00:15:28] Speaker B: They say they said they would be open to independence. [00:15:32] Speaker A: They don't believe but my friends don't believe that for a second so. But I did say when I went on stage, you know I had a Scotland top one when I was posting for the F. And and I did say, you know, and we anterity anti genocide, pro independence but pro Corbin because he has been in the right side of history forever. He's never. And everything he's saying sounds good and I don't, I don't think he's going to be leader of the new party. I think that the idea is that he's, he's starting some sort of. I just don't know how long it's going to take them to get all their eggs in a row compared to how far ahead reform are doing just now. [00:16:10] Speaker B: He has Obiwan Kenobi, aren't he? [00:16:13] Speaker A: Yeah, he. [00:16:14] Speaker B: He's the Jedi coming, coming back that well. [00:16:18] Speaker A: He could, you know, imagine him as a Foreign Secretary, maybe not as a leader, but I think it'd be a great Foreign Secretary. I think he could stop a lot of wars and I think that. Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, it's either that or Nigel Farage is Prime Minister. But I'm still pro independence. I said it on stage, still won independence, but I'd rather an independent Scotland dealing with whatever Corbin's party turns out to be than. Than obviously UK reform. Because we have. We have had about two decades of Tories and Starmers was a Tory and then everybody we had Brexit for. I said Brexit would sort everything up. And now he's like, we didn't Brexit hard enough, so let's just get a wee bit more Brexit. So I'm. [00:17:00] Speaker B: I'm pro whoever's the fairest and try to make society the best and whether that's with independence or without, I'm. I'm happy to give something else a go. But the reality is that it's probably. We would need independence for that to be long lasting. But it'd be nice, it'd be really nice to get something completely radical that. That just absolutely defeats the lot of them, you know? [00:17:28] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But, yeah, it was, it was nice. It was nice. I didn't really have any part for him. I. I did. I was walking a bit with a broken foot, so I didn't really spark up too many conversations with him. I was going to try and get a few words like for interviewing, but it just seemed like he was getting. It just feel. I feel like everyone was just like wanting. He's wanting to do things, you know, signing autographs, be that, you know, just people ask a lot of them. So I didn't really. I didn't bother him. [00:18:02] Speaker C: Right. [00:18:02] Speaker A: I just felt like just leave him be. But he seemed nice. He seemed approachable, I would say. But I'm gonna go to that a bit further next time. So. Soul Face. Speaking of Soul Fest, I went in about a run there, but Soul Fest, I didn't go a bit Diggy did go. So how was Solfest in Cumbria last night? [00:18:24] Speaker C: Yeah, it was fun, man. We were on about half ten last night, so kind of just headed back, headed back up the road after it had stuff to do Today, but got back about 3 in the morning, so I'm a bit tired today. But it was, yeah, fun, man. Like, it was one of those gigs where you. We were almost competing against left field on the main stage, but luckily we didn't have. They were on a little bit after us, I think, or just towards him. So we managed to kind of start our set where there wasn't. There's just a few people kind of milling about and then, you know, as we started playing that. That crowd just eventually kind of coalesced and by the end of it, we had a really good crowd. Everybody was jumping up and down and stuff. So it's good fun. [00:19:05] Speaker A: It's a good feeling that. It's a good feeling when the crowd builds. I've been in the opposite of that as well, where I've emptied crowds. Not. Not for a wee while now, but. Oh, in fact, we did. We did it in January and Dumfries, you were there, John, but I think you left before we even started, so we can't even get the blame for that. [00:19:24] Speaker B: That wasn't. That wasn't your fault. That was just like people having their dinner on a night that we're going to be leaving regardless. Unless. Unless Katie Tunstall were coming on. They were all leaving. Mark, that wasn't. [00:19:43] Speaker A: They were. They were having a great time. They were having it. I don't think you left. You missed all this. [00:19:48] Speaker B: So I was there at the start of your set and I. [00:19:51] Speaker A: Did you want to do that? [00:19:52] Speaker B: I told you that's what was going to happen as well. [00:19:55] Speaker C: And. [00:19:55] Speaker A: Well, I told all my band that was going to happen. I says, by the way, everyone is going to leave during our set. And everyone thought it was being negative. And I went, no, this is. This makes no sense. I'm not even sure why this is happening. To just give a really bad background. It was a really nice Burns night. So you've got sort of mellow party. You had Michelle McManus hosting it. It was some amazing acoustic fiddles, Acapella bun song sung by incredible singers. And then the live stream finished. Michelle McManus went, thanks, everyone. And then they just turned off the cameras, let everybody drink for an hour and then set up a bass amp. I get an electric guitar amp and a drum kit for us. And then, yeah, after every song, two tables would leave. And I think we started off with 500 people and we ended with about 17 people in a mosh. [00:20:46] Speaker B: But people absolutely loving it, weren't they? So. [00:20:50] Speaker A: No, they were. They were. They were Shout outs to our dumfries hardcore. They did enjoy it and. And I think maybe every single person bought a T shirt so. But yeah, it was that. But that was. That was so comical, people walking out at that level. Sometimes you can go on, sometimes you can get that latest slot and it's a wee bit sort of quite heartbreaking everyone's leaving. But this one felt like it was almost funny because like everybody, it's a. Like the bar staff loved us because they could just tidy up the tables and they got away early. So the bar staff enjoyed this because we scared everyone away. But yeah, I don't know why that happened. Maybe it wasn't. In fact, I think Gary was there. Gary arrived just before the gyro started. Yes, Mako, My old band cleared out a full pub in the Finland, about half a song and yeah, that happened as a people. Somebody cancelled and Vicky asked us, do you want to go on? We just need a band at short notice and we went in but it. I don't know if this is before I was working there. It was people just having, you know, paints after office, paints after work. And then we came on and it was a very. A very raw early incarnation of our band. So yeah, that was another time. I remember emptying a place probably about half a song it took us to empty that room as well. [00:22:08] Speaker B: That was the first place Colonel Master the Mickey Nines played. Stumpy had this on supporting Mountain. I love. [00:22:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:22:16] Speaker B: Sort of offshoot of some of the guys for Alabama 3. [00:22:22] Speaker C: Yep, that's right. I remember People People Days, man. I. Yeah, I think for us in the early days before People People made us hit the big time, we. We were like basically building up a fan base of bar staff and sound guys, empty venues but obviously there are some staff there and then so that you get a few guys at the bar, come up after and go, oh, that was brilliant, man. What's your band called? You do enough of them, then you have about 100 fans. [00:22:55] Speaker B: I had a guy at my work that's a Mackie Nines fan the other day. He's a social worker so you should have moved into the social work stratosphere. Nice going. I mean, my mates go and see the Mackie Nines, we'll maybe come to the bars, so. [00:23:10] Speaker C: Oh, in fact, that reminds me, I should give a shout out to. Oh, I can't remember the name of their business. They have like a. It's like a CBD kind of therapy place. I'm not sure the exact name of it. It's Basically next to where the old Chai of Now was, in the West End of Glasgow. [00:23:30] Speaker A: No, it's actually in there. The Child Lane. [00:23:34] Speaker C: Yes, because I was walking by there the other day because there's a record shop down there. So I was buying a record and then I was like, I wonder if that Child is open. And I kind of look my head. Put my head around the corner and it's just a couple of guys that are standing there, like, carrying some boxes, and they were like, oh, can we help you? And I was like, oh, sorry, I was just trying to see if this place was still open. And they're like, oh, really? Sorry, mate. We are. We are normally open, but today we're actually packing up because we're going to a festival and we're gonna. We're gonna. Exactly. Sounds like. All right, cool. What festival? Oh, amazing. Well, my band's playing Selfish, so I'll. I'll maybe see you there. And they're like, oh, cool, what's your band called? And I was like a Mickey Nines and all that. The only reason we're going to Selfest is to see you. [00:24:24] Speaker B: Nice. Sweet Eagle Burst. [00:24:28] Speaker A: I mean, I think. I think they're actually running a CB10 as well. A CBD tent as well. [00:24:33] Speaker C: I said it wrong. [00:24:35] Speaker A: It's good. [00:24:35] Speaker C: No, no, the only band that they wanted, they. They knew that they wanted. [00:24:40] Speaker A: They wanted to see. Sorry, sorry. No, no, no, sorry, I shouldn't even. I was just. I was just being a dick there. But, yeah, they were. They've got. They were, believe me, cbd, Tardis. So they do the, you know, the little Doctor, like, Doctor who phone boxes in Glasgow. [00:25:01] Speaker C: Yeah, that's right. [00:25:01] Speaker A: So they started doing CBD products from there and then they moved to chaiov. Now I've been. I've been in a couple of times. They're dead nice. And I believe that they've got a. I think. Well, I don't know if this happened. You were at Sofist. I wasn't, but my understanding is Rave Makes. Glasgow had a dance tent called Scheme, so I was kind of helping a little bit with. With some early planning of that and my understanding was that we're going to have a. Like a legal smoking, but for people that have got legal marijuana, like the legal certificate. [00:25:35] Speaker C: That's what they said. So that's exactly what they were doing. So I think they're the first example of that in any festival in the UK where you've. Can. If you've got your medical certificate, you can go and Vape marijuana. I think it is some. There's some sort of legal something about it. I think it's vaping it or something. But yeah. So they're trying to pioneer that and then start spreading across different festivals in the uk, which is quite interesting. [00:26:00] Speaker A: Yeah, it's good. Good on them. Good on them. And what time does Sophie Fish start at? Was six o'? Clock? Yeah, six o'. Clock. Sorry, that was Katie asking what time. Yeah, six o'. Clock. It starts at. I believe it's one starry sky. So just be there for six. We've not got a running order teams yet. We'll hopefully have them in a couple of days. But just get there for six o'. [00:26:21] Speaker C: Clock. [00:26:22] Speaker A: Get there early. [00:26:23] Speaker C: You know how like the James cover is secret, right? [00:26:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:28] Speaker C: What if we all just play Laid? [00:26:32] Speaker A: Yes. [00:26:34] Speaker C: No clue. [00:26:38] Speaker A: Yeah, we. I did the. For. We did. We did a charity night for James Sweeney. So me and Mark haven't really done that many acoustic sets really. So we. We tried out acoustic at McNeil's Bar and it felt quite good. But I don't. I haven't. Didn't what? I deliberately haven't watched any video footage yet and then I did maybe that again at Governor Music Festival in Ali Grant should be sent me a video. So I've seen the video up to the. The high notes and then the video cut it. So I'm glad I didn't see it because it is. I've got some. Tim Booth is a fantastic singer. [00:27:13] Speaker C: No. So I was thinking that myself when we were practicing the COVID and I was like, oh this guy's like a million times better at singing than me. [00:27:21] Speaker B: Even the. It's so weird and they're so new, so nuanced. Like you just think, oh that's just a bog standard sing along. But I. [00:27:31] Speaker A: We. [00:27:31] Speaker B: I'm the exact same when you listen. Even what some of the band are doing as well is more interesting than you probably. Well they get plenty of credit. They're a much loved band. [00:27:43] Speaker A: But yeah get credit for the. They get credit for the anthems but obviously there's just a. You know the. I think. I think the reason that they've lasted so long is I'm also for anybody that doesn't know the reason that we're all doing a James cover is because we're doing the gig in honor of our friend. So that's why we're. All proceeds are going to the Beatson and Mary Curie who. Who did a lot of good. He's done a good. Looked after him in his final days, looked after a lot of my friends and family in. In the later time. But yeah, so he was. He started the James Fan zone, the James fan club and stuff like that. So, yeah, we're all doing a James cover. And I think it's because the last. The test of time, because they still know how to make us. They still know how to hit the charts, but then they've got really interesting things that the super fans can. Can attach themselves to as well. So, yeah, I think. [00:28:36] Speaker C: I think overall they're actually. They're most famous for two songs and then maybe another three or four, like kind of other reasonably big hits. But obviously they sat down and laid the biggest hits. But then, yeah, their actual body of work is mostly quite avant garde and weird, you know. I mean, it's not. As such. It's much more experimental and. Yeah, poetically and stuff like that, you know. [00:29:03] Speaker A: And they got the first ever number one album just about a year ago, because we had Saul from James on the show and that was soapy that set that up. So we got. We did it. We made a live stream. We saw from James on the day that they got the number one album. And that was the first number one album. That was the first ever number one. He said, well, he said actually they actually had the. The Best of James was the number one as well. So I was like, that counts. So I was like, no, it doesn't count. And I was like, I don't know. I think it counts, man. If I. If I was to bring out a best of a Best of the greatest stats. If you were to bring a greatest stats and it got number one. I'm counting that. But I suppose it's all about perspective in it. [00:29:45] Speaker C: Right? [00:29:46] Speaker B: I think as well, we. [00:29:47] Speaker C: I mean, the Best of ABBA is the best album. [00:29:52] Speaker A: Partridge, I would have to say. What's your favorite? I would have to say it's the best of the Beatles. Katie said, sorry, K, hold on. It broke my heart when I found out that James from James wasn't called James. Yeah, I did think he was called James. [00:30:12] Speaker B: I'm from James. [00:30:15] Speaker C: It's quite a bold name when you think about it. Just. Just James. [00:30:19] Speaker A: A just. [00:30:20] Speaker C: It's a pretty rubbish name. But then it doesn't matter because they're a good band. [00:30:23] Speaker A: Well, it's like Dave with the rapper, Dave. And there's quite a funny video with Louis through talking about it. He went, dave. Just Dave. But it's bold. It's both me just do that. [00:30:34] Speaker B: Yeah, it'd be Nice to. To talk about Sopia B. But like what. What he means to. To us I suppose individually but together. [00:30:44] Speaker A: Okay, well you got. You go first John. You go first. [00:30:47] Speaker B: I just. I suppose that the. The reason we. We were all asked to do this and we all immediately said yes was because that Sophie was one of the guys that would push all our bands and so many more bands and acts to the. The highest degree possibly could. There was the first guy a love comment. Send you a message, buy a cd, come here. Gag another. Ask for a guest list. You know him and Susan, they were. They are just amazing people and just coming from a really sound place and going back to James. I think that's. You can tell when their fans are some of the soundest fans you can get. In fact I think they used to wear T shirts that said sound along with the flowers and stuff like that. But it was just one of the guys that if you were at a festival and a bit down in your luck or needed a cup of tea or a can or somewhere to kind of put your head down or just a friendly word or a laugh or whatever. Just some of the older sort of wiser but not. But still fun and still silly and prepared to have a. You know about a madness themselves folk. But just one of the I cool people that that was there and I just done so much for I suppose Colonel Mustard. But all of you guys and so many more more bands and the money raised during COVID and the fact that he's so heavily involved with the Badland fan page and the James fan page. [00:32:30] Speaker A: Could you just. Could you just tell a little bit more about the. The because of the lockdown charity thing? Because I was. I don't really know much about it because I remember him phoning me about it and I was just very confused with the whole thing and then ended up getting some really big names and raised 3 million pound or something like. But can you do you know a bit more detail? [00:32:49] Speaker B: So again I think it was. So it was him and Saul for James. Well the sort of two guys and I can't remember if it was so last time but there was a combination of charities that is money for. One of them was Marcus Rashford's charity which is all about giving kids a fair start and you know, meals and all of the things. But at that time as well there was a lot of behind the scenes people within music or your roadies or your security let folk that just weren't able to work. And a lot of the money raised was for the Guys, I think it was two or three charities and I think they ended up by raising a couple of million so they were able to kind of divvy that money up. And it was amazing. Eileen Gallagher and Sam Smith and they had big American act. And I think that was possibly the one time I might have been. No raging. But a bit like how, you know, asking Colonel Master than the Gyro Babies and Mackie Knights to that one. [00:33:54] Speaker A: Gallagher. [00:33:54] Speaker B: Exactly. But it was one. You just had to go, do you know what I. That. And I suppose that Soapy in a nutshell, he was about how do we raise the most money for this thing. Yeah, to help the most people. And I suppose that that's what Soapy Fest about for the Beatson and the Marie Curie. Just all the bands getting behind this amazing guy and what he stood for and try to help these two charities that do so much good work for people with cancer and other terminal illnesses. In terms of the. The what the Marie Curie do as well. [00:34:32] Speaker A: How did you first meet Sophie? [00:34:36] Speaker C: So first of all, just. Yeah, just reiterate everything John was saying there always. Yeah, just everything he said there. Completely agree with all that. But the. The link at the. The sort of original link to Soapy and then all of us really is Dave, the bassist of Mickey Nines, the legend is from a wee village called Mount Akamsey and grew up there. And the local pub, it was called the Kincaid. And so basically Soapy and Susan used to drink down the Kincaid and so did Dave and his brother. And Dave was quite young now, he's about 18. So Mickey nines had not even really started. I mean we were a band but we hadn't really done that much. Just kind of jamming the odds like the odd gig, Cumbernault Town hall and stuff like that. And then, yeah, so Dave and Soapy was really into his music and him and David always get chatting about music. So Dave invited. You know what, this might be slightly wrong, this story, but this is my understanding something like this. Dave invited to come and see his, I think King Tuts maybe. Maybe it was one of our first kind of bigger gigs. Well, bigger gigs. It was big at the time for us, you know what I mean? And then, yeah, I think he came and he really was not expecting anything. He just coming to see because pal Dave was. Was playing and yeah, and he was just really, really blown away and really impressed. And then from there he would come to Mickey nice gigs. And I think that's how he kind of started to see Jerry Babies and Colonel Mustard and stuff like that. And we used to play together all the time. So. Yeah. And like. So I've just kind of. He's always been for our band, like, basically our. Like from the way it's like our biggest fan, you know what I mean? So in a way, it's like, it's such a special thing because when you get. Especially when you're starting out, this guy kind of has faith in it and he's like, oh, you guys are great. [00:36:24] Speaker A: I really love it. [00:36:24] Speaker C: And you've got a case. So actually somebody actually likes this, you know what I mean? And so it gives you the confidence to keep doing it. So that was really important to me, especially when I was really young. I was only 18 or so, but I don't know, maybe slightly older, but very young anyway, when kind of first met him. And then I guess in a weird way, like my fondest memories of it, of really strippers Soapy is being at a festival for maybe a couple of days and part of the ritual was maybe in the morning you kind of get up to a few people around where you're at, you're doing your thing and then it's. You can't. What we're going to do, we're going to the site. [00:37:01] Speaker A: No, do you know what? [00:37:02] Speaker C: Let's go. Let's go and find Sophie. Because they had that, the van with the big flag for the smiley face. So you could always find them. And then, you know, they'd be up and they'd be having Susan and a couple of their pals sitting about around a wee table drinking Prosecco, usually. And there's really a wee glass of Prosecco for you. You'd sit down and then you just like have a wee chat about the night, the night before. And it was just the best crack ever. Do you know what I mean? And just especially Susan as well, the amazing stories. And I particularly liked when Sophie and Susan would tell the same story at the same time and then kind of interrupt each other and then add details and correct each other about all their mad antics. There's like a really funny one about, I think, meeting Rufus Wainwright or something like that. I can't. It was kind of exact details, but I remember really funny revolving around Rufus Wainwright or his sister or something. I think Hopi met him in a lift or in New York or some other. Anyway, these kind of things. I mean, these kind of madcap adventures they used to go on. So, yeah, just that for me was just the best crack. And then also the wee Festival Lock Stock and Locha. We again we played that there in the early days and we just kind of brought our pals. So it was like me and a group of our friends of about 10 and I mean, you know, our band are now at 10. Well maybe another five friends about 10 or so. And then just these people that live in this village and so his pals and just hanging about with them and this. This is a beautiful location where this we sort of pop up sort of local festival diy. Many, many, many festival it was. I remember the two times we played as well. The weather was amazing and so sunny and just. Just all these kind of. Just beautiful memories of. Of the. The early days of getting into the music scene and just hanging out with them and. Yeah, just. Just brilliant memories, man. That's what it's all about. [00:38:54] Speaker A: Yeah, definitely. Absolutely. [00:38:56] Speaker B: And what about you, Mark? [00:38:58] Speaker A: What do I see? I think I don't remember the first time but it was just. I think it was probably because we played a gig with one of you guys and I think that then he came and introduced himself and then. I mean I think actually it came up on our friendship that. Because I was looking for photos because I was trying to edit a video of all the music videos he's been in but there's so many. So if anybody's. I'm going to try and finish that this week though before. Before the gig inside. [00:39:26] Speaker C: He's in Superman by the way. Just so you. [00:39:28] Speaker A: Yeah, so yeah, I'm trying to get. [00:39:32] Speaker C: I need to say that it's such a good moment because the Superman video for. It's like three and a half minutes long and it's. And it's just the last five seconds he jumps out the cupboard dressed as a pharaoh. [00:39:48] Speaker B: You need to get. You need to include some crowd soften at the Lavic Timaki Nines as well. [00:39:55] Speaker C: That's a great moment. Yeah, for sure. [00:39:57] Speaker A: Yeah. We were all. Obviously we were actually going to play are we acoustic set when he was in hospital and but then obviously things just happened deteriorated quite fast. So everybody were thinking about we're all going to go the Lavic. So I'm glad. Glad that you said it first because I. I pronounce it differently every time I hear about the Lock Stock Festival. So that was the first time I went. It was. We kind of did a sort of a gyro maybe say I suppose the best way to put it it was kind of like half Colo mustard and. But you. You had a couple of band members that knew our songs. So then we had a great night at Log Stock and that was kind of like. It was. It was a. It was a strange atmosphere because obviously we're hoping he was going to make it there and. But it was just so. Was quite raw, it was quite fresh but it was a beautiful, beautiful part of the world. And we ended up in a boat sailing a bit about seven in the morning. It's a bit. Yeah, it's just like there's loads of stuff like just all the. The music videos appeared then. He always is one of the few people that shares things. You know, I mean when you. Because like a lot of people, A lot of people don't understand that the power of that if you can. If somebody's got a new music video or, or they've got something when people just share it or even talk about your music, it makes such a big difference because people are kind of desensitized to adverts now. So when somebody actually says they genuinely love a new piece of music and they're not on the, they're not in the. The payroll, then you take it more seriously. Especially when it's coming from a. A real music fan like. Like soapy. So yeah, he's appeared in a definitely at least three or four music videos and you know what you said the festival memories of. Of him and Susan and all the crowd that they, you know they're like a light, a light bulb to a moth. Moths of good people who like good times and so yeah, just loads of good festival memories and yeah and also there was just loads of things he did as well that, that people wouldn't know about. Like just when my dad had a stroke, I just put a post up saying can anyone get me to come on? Like I didn't get command like straight away and so be straight away just messaged me and he just drove us into Kamalnik to visit my dad and took me back to McCool's. I think. I think I played a gig that night that was one of the gigs that nearly canceled but you know, didn't because thankfully Sophie stepped in. So yeah, just a lot, A lot of happy memories and yeah, just I. I'm just a positive guy that a great dress. Dress sense a good taste in music and like I think Susan said just to reiterate it as well just like he would actually love this the, you know, the fact that there's that picture. I think it was Colin Bobby that took the picture with umbrella. Yeah, yeah. So shouts to Colin. So you may have seen these posters. They're everywhere around Glasgow. If you see one, please take a picture of yourself next day because we're going to try and collect them all. [00:42:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:46] Speaker A: And yeah, it's just that, yeah, he would love this. This first. [00:42:51] Speaker C: A Palad mine, who never. Who didn't also appear in a kind of different circle, saw the poster and he took a photo of it and sent it to me. He's like, why are you playing like a bubble party? [00:43:06] Speaker A: I don't know what bubbles are. Bubble party. Am I being naive here? Okay, I've got you. Right. Okay. You know, I went to one of them. I went to one of them. I think it was called Expo. Was it Expo in komanic? [00:43:19] Speaker C: Right. [00:43:19] Speaker A: My 18th birthday. I think it was Expo someone. Correct. If there's any extra people in the chat. I mean, you got that wrong. But it was like a phone party. A phone party. [00:43:32] Speaker C: Maybe that's what I meant, a phone party. [00:43:35] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't really do that anymore. The health and safety is. John, you've kind of. I think you should go back to where you were because your Internet went a bit weird. But yeah, the phone party, because people are just sort of drunk and falling all over the place. But it was quite good fun. No idea what is it. So I. Yeah, you don't really get. You don't really hear phone parties. I think they still do it and I'm sure I be in Spain in that. Where you're less likely to get sued. [00:43:58] Speaker B: That's the last phone party. [00:43:59] Speaker C: I went. [00:44:00] Speaker B: It was Ibiza, my pal that c. That looks like Ross out of Friends. He. He ended up on a bus going to the other side of the island and it's a whole drama. But that was a. I don't know. [00:44:15] Speaker C: If I'm showing my age by maybe get some calling a bubble party or not. If that makes me. [00:44:21] Speaker A: No, I think. I think in this circumstance, I think. I think you're maybe showing that you're maybe younger than us, I would imagine. Or it may be a. It may be a. A geographical thing. But surely it's a phone party. [00:44:35] Speaker C: Surely that was the time. [00:44:39] Speaker A: Because I was. Like you said, bubble party. I went about. I thought, what was it like? I just kind of sort of smiled and I went, no, actually, I know what a bubble party is. [00:44:47] Speaker B: Maybe that's the. That's what the surprise is. It's not a surprise guess. But it's the first ever phone party in the Barristers. [00:44:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, that could. That could be the surprise. We've got a message from Gary. Says I Hope. I just hope someone was complaining. Getting Away with that. My favorite James tune. You. You never know. I think there's a strong chance that one of the bands will play Getting Away With it all messed Up. So I can confirm that. I'll confirm that one of the bands is playing Getting Away With it all messed up and good luck to them because that isn't hard. That's not an easy song to sing. KitKat says. I think Pictures Phone party gave everyone a rush. Then it got washed after that. Yep. Well, I mean Pictures Kaibosh. I like kabos shout out shout outs to everyone. Pictures in Irvin and they've had a very big weekend right now you talk about Nebworth. Irving's Nebworth was yesterday. It was the Merry Miss Fair. So I hope everybody's safe. I hope the hangovers aren't too bad and I hope somebody won the greasy poll which is a. When three men climb up a pole to. To win the. The winning meat which is the Picture picks up 200 pounds worth of meat at the top of the pole and then they walk around with a bucket and people put money in their bucket and they get free pint spot for the money. So in fact I do know that somebody did win it. Shouts to Mark and Angie. They were our eyes on this eye from the sky or what or boots in the ground. They said that the first team won the the greasy poll. So happy Merry Miss for all those who celebrate it in Irvine. And I'm. I'm absolutely surprised that pictures is still a thing because that used to. That's when I watched the Jungle Book. It used to be an actual pictures but now it's called Pictures as in the cell pictures. So good on them. You should have a bubble machine for the bars though. Yeah. I mean I'm sure that there's going to be some sort of stage thing. Are you. Are you bringing your curtains, John? You're a ten thousand pound curtain. [00:46:53] Speaker B: I might bring my curtains. I could have a bubble bath behind some curtains. Come on in a bath. [00:47:03] Speaker A: Well we were planning and for our album launch we're wearing the like dressing gowns because the sort of dreams are meant also idea. But then a band played Slay the week before us that did exactly the same thing on the same venue and I just thought it looked like we stole their ideas so I was just dressed normal. But we've got an idea for this week. We're going. We've got. I think we've got. We've went through a few different ideas and I think we've settled on an idea. So we've got. We've got some visual surprises, I think. Don't have any special guests, do they? Or. Or would you tell us if you did? Or do you just don't believe in it? [00:47:41] Speaker C: Yeah, we don't really believe in it. Although you're welcome to come up, Mark. You know, I mean. [00:47:44] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I don't. I don't want to. I don't want it. [00:47:50] Speaker C: Yeah, that's fine. [00:47:53] Speaker B: I should say I've got my. So first T shirt on. [00:47:57] Speaker A: Oh, brilliant. You can buy these. [00:48:00] Speaker B: You can buy these from the Barons on the night, but from Blitz Creek Records in advance and it's got all the band's names on the back and Gav Mitchell's name and all that. And again, money raised for these goes to the charities. But if you buy a ticket for the Barbers and. Or a T shirt, you get entered into the draw. It won the guitar that Niall Rogers signs and he wrote We Are Family on it as well, so definitely well worth. And they're lovely T shirts. They're really cool. So it's a. It'll be a good keepsake. [00:48:37] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm just going to put a link in the. I found the. The T shirts. It's on the bars website. So it also, it's important to mention as well that everybody who buys a ticket for Soapy Fest goes into the prize draw and everyone who buys a T shirt goes into the prize draw. And I think there's going to be a few prizes, but the biggest prize of all is a guitar signed by Nile Rogers. [00:49:02] Speaker C: That's pretty. [00:49:04] Speaker A: That is. That's amazing. [00:49:05] Speaker B: It's a cool guitar. I know I got to be shot yet the other night. It's like. Don't know if it's because his magic hands have touched it, but I had a mystical quality to it. [00:49:19] Speaker A: So, yeah. D. Rogers, were you at the gig? Were you flying in the gig? [00:49:23] Speaker B: I was flyering and we were playing on Tony's roof. But because we were rehearsing that night, just done that, I had a fantasy that he would see us and go, oh, wait there, man, and come up and play get lucky. [00:49:39] Speaker A: Oh, my God, what is that? [00:49:41] Speaker B: I star. [00:49:43] Speaker A: Stop it. [00:49:47] Speaker B: Exactly. See, to be fair, I think Tom Maguire, who supported them, got like some massive compliments off him on the night. First. First thing he said. So Tom. Tom got that moment and it'd be fair. Tom sells it. He's great. [00:50:01] Speaker C: Nice shout out. [00:50:03] Speaker A: He's Tom Maguire supporting Now Rogers and now Roger Saying star gig is on Derby Day. Maybe some forming. Yeah, well there is, there is a. There is a football match on that day. We were aware a Sunday and there's a football match on. But I mean what time is kickoff? Just because I might watch the game as well. I'll be noon probably noon kickoff. Right, so noon kickoff. So we watching the game in the. The bars. Dressing room. [00:50:31] Speaker B: I think we should get a game of football where we Sponge football and the bat. [00:50:36] Speaker A: You pick your times to challenge me to a game of football, didn't you? A bit. [00:50:40] Speaker C: You could. L take a few. A few years away from the old farm. If their team's losing, they can watch us play. [00:50:50] Speaker B: Right, well head. So the bars will be. It's going to be very, very lively. [00:50:58] Speaker A: Down in the Gall at the east end. It'll be. It may be. Well, I mean it could be. It'll either be a carnival atmosphere or everyone will just go home and it'll be quiet. So we'll see. But. [00:51:11] Speaker B: Particle fan trying to remember. [00:51:13] Speaker A: Well, he was. It was famously partic Thistle but I think, I think it was. I think it was Rangers. But he, he didn't. I don't know. I don't know. It was. I think he was Rangers and they all supported Celtic in Europe. So I, I made my own conclusions about that. [00:51:30] Speaker C: I think he was only really. He was really into like national international football. That was the thing. [00:51:41] Speaker A: So the games at Ibrox. So actually it's all right. It's all right. That's probably. [00:51:45] Speaker C: Yeah, that's probably a good thing. [00:51:49] Speaker A: Yeah. That means you can get. Yeah, so get, get there early and like that. That's good because that means that the pubs will be quite. They should be quite quiet at that area because I mean it's not. The Gallagher's totally changed some for some of it for the better, some of it for the worse and depends on what way you look at it. But you know, about 10 years ago it was. It was when the, when the beard shut down, which obviously I was gutted about the beards and the hoops. I think I had my first ever paint on the birds. It's. There was just nothing there for a while and now you've got kind of hipster bars. [00:52:18] Speaker B: I. I heard you were scared of the builds. [00:52:24] Speaker A: But yeah, it was, it was. It was good and you had the beards, the hoops. But now it's kind of. I don't even know what it's called. It's the number of the street. 5, 3, 7 or something like that and you've got some looks there as well. So get your, get, get, get your lunch book for St. Luke's Sarah, he said more Gorbus kind of direction. You've got this, you've got, you've got, you've got a few, you've got. Oh yeah, sorry, sorry. Yeah, sorry. Yeah, there's two, two sarees. Yeah, you get still that will be open. That'll be showing the game, I'm sure and. But yeah, apart from that it's the football crowd's going to be gone anyway. Just get, get along, get along to St. Luke's or something. Get yourself some lunch at 3 o' clock and be there for the doors opening at 6. It sounds good and we'll be. So what we're doing, we doing sound check. Can we do it? Can we watch the football then go to sound check? Do we know that stuff yet? [00:53:27] Speaker B: Focal have it on their phones anyway. So yeah, it was quite good. I, I hope not. Not because. Well, I, I hope Rangers do get beat but Mo Jamon the other night was watching Rangers getting beat and it was, it was played so well. Just that anger playing well. He was doing these amazing fouls because they could see his team getting beat so, so I'm hoping that he brings some of that anger to the. The energy on the night channeling and his drum fills. [00:54:03] Speaker A: We update are we update for the meet was held in with duct tape this year n barbed wire. That's health and safety going mad. [00:54:10] Speaker B: What are they thinking of? Wire away. It's crazy. [00:54:17] Speaker A: I can't believe they're still allowed to do it at all. To be fair. Climbing up a greasy pool. [00:54:22] Speaker C: Fair has gone woke. [00:54:24] Speaker A: Yes, Wokness is ruining the greasy pool. Mark, your first point was in the Clearment like the rest of us. No, it wasn't him. It wasn't it. It was the Clearman. I have, I have a few points in the clearment we use. Yeah, I know the clanking but no, the, the cler I with ID so I'm not Gring the pin because it doesn't exist anymore. But yeah, there was a. There was less strict. It was less strict pubs in Glasgow that would serve me pints and. Yeah, okay, cool. As a stage manager I would hate the idea of a bubble bath on stage. Yeah, I mean I don't think that. I don't. What do you think Gary Pens would make of that? Gary? [00:55:08] Speaker B: I'm the artist needs to make it happen. I don't care. A man's got a wash. [00:55:16] Speaker C: It's the kind of thing that Mariah Carey might do, you know, put. [00:55:20] Speaker B: Put a chewing gum out on. [00:55:25] Speaker A: I was watching, remember Michael Jackson flew away in a jetpack. So I was. I was like. [00:55:35] Speaker B: Because obviously Michael Jackson, I think it was. [00:55:38] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I said no, that's why I investigated it, because I was like, I do remember that he went away in a jet pack or somebody mentioned it. And I was like, so. And I did go down that rabbit hole. And yeah, first of all, it wasn't a jet pack. It was probably like strings or something, wasn't it? And second of all, they're not going to have Michael Jackson like flying through the air. And also, you can see when you watch it back, I've not got. As you can see, I've only get Consol Streamyard than this. So I can't watch YouTube just now at the same time. But they move these magic boxes for no reason. There's a lot of magician boxes up here that move back and forth and back and forth and all of a sudden Michael Jackson's about one foot smaller and he starts flying a bit. Yeah. So I think it was rigged. Everything's fake. Everything's a lie. Boy mask guy. There's a point. The gas mask guy for Mickey Nines. [00:56:35] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. We don't know him. So we don't actually know if he's going to be there or who he is then. So if he's there, he's welcome to come up. Obviously it's very important. Part of ammunition. [00:56:45] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:56:46] Speaker C: Genuinely don't know who the guy is. I'm just going to emphasize that now. Don't know. [00:56:50] Speaker A: Well, everyone used to blame it on me. [00:56:52] Speaker C: Oh, really? [00:56:53] Speaker A: Just get to blame it. I was getting to blame it for a while. Just in. You're the. You are the gas mask guy, aren't you? I've had a few folks saying that, but no, I'm not the gas mask guy. [00:57:02] Speaker C: Yeah, I know. It's definitely not Mark, I can tell. [00:57:03] Speaker B: You that, because he really nails that role, doesn't he? [00:57:07] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:57:12] Speaker A: I wonder. I wonder what? Who is he? Who is he? [00:57:17] Speaker C: I think he. [00:57:17] Speaker A: If anybody just knows, that's a guy that comes up. We look at proper war gas mask from the. With the war era and then he just. He starts marching to the Mickey names. Classic ammunition. [00:57:29] Speaker C: Yeah, he just comes up on stage. Kind of the origin story of that is Kelbourne, the. The wee stage out the front. I can't remember what it's called. You know the one I mean, that's kind of before you get in Paramount. Yeah. Pyramid and Bicky names. That was the first one of the first festival kicks we ever got. And afternoon on the Friday. Not many people about, really. Just kind of set people setting about and we started playing. And then one of the guys that was sitting about was wearing a gas mask. And so I was like, oh, this next song's Ammunition. It's about nuclear Armageddon. And I was like, this guy's a gas mask. Come, come upstage. I can't remember if I should invited him up or if he just got up or something like that. Anyway, so you get came up and he. And he marched on the stage and that from then on, he just started coming to all the gigs. Just like Aberdeen, Glasgow, any part of the country will turn up. [00:58:22] Speaker A: So was it Ammunition? So, like, did you think or did he think, well, we obviously can't remember, but was Ammunition the first time he did it? And. Or did you think, oh, this will work well with that song? [00:58:34] Speaker C: Or he thought, in the actual music video, which I'm pretty sure we'd already made, to Ammunition, we have gas masks on, right? And the music video. And so I think because I seen him, I'd said something about that or something, so I'd made a comment on stage, and then I can't really remember. It was something like that. But anyway, he was just a random guy in the audience. I mean, he'd never seen us before. And he just got up and then he became like this pure obsessive figure who comes to like. [00:59:03] Speaker A: Well, daddy says. [00:59:04] Speaker C: We actually really make an effort to not know him. Do you know what I mean? [00:59:07] Speaker A: Like, we. So he's not. It could be anyone. Well, gas mask guy. I've met the gas mask guy. But he denied it. He would have died denying it. So how do you know it's him? Oh, I only think. I only think I've met him. Lou Rogerson. [00:59:24] Speaker C: There was a story where Blair was at an afters and then lastly came up to him and she was like, I'm gas mask guy's daughter. Right? And then he was like, no, you aren't here. Where's your cast mask? Is there everybody in the family? [00:59:46] Speaker A: No. You know, Lou Rogerson says he works in the rigs, so it depends if he's offshore or no. Yeah, interesting. [00:59:53] Speaker C: We don't want to know too much. We don't want to know too much. [00:59:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay, no more. No more clues. [00:59:58] Speaker C: Yeah. And then he. Oh, I can't remember. I can't remember. There's another funny thing. There was A fake name going about that was like Gaz Ma. Like Gaz. Gaz McCaskill or something like that. His real name was Gaz McCaskill. And like nobody put two together. It was like. [01:00:23] Speaker A: Yeah, right above. That went above my head, sir. [01:00:27] Speaker C: It was something like that. Anyway, I can't remember, but we genuinely thought that was his name was called Gaz for ages until we just clocked it. That was just. Obviously. [01:00:38] Speaker A: And Gary also says that Sopi was a particle fan, but he definitely had a side, so that's. That's all he's got to say about it. And Stuart says that he thought he's in Gas Maskeller on any Slothian. Yeah, Well, I can, you know, admit that I'm. Any Slothing. It's not that big a secret. I'm. I'm just not divulging the village in case somebody offers to go for a pint of me because I'm just enjoying the. The peace and quiet and not having hangovers and I'm. I just want my voice to be rested for the bars and I've. I've already got a broken foot, so I just want to be good. And. Yeah. So. So Saturday. It's a Sunday. I can't think it's Friday, so I think I'm. We're rehearsing then Thursday, but we're not rehearsing on the Saturday. And then there's a gig. Bodina's album Posthumous. A posthumous album. Bogdina was amazing and her album's getting released at Macintosh Church. So get to that on the Saturday night, if you can. I think that's my plan after we rehearse is to go there as well. And what else. Is. What else coming up? So obviously the bar is. Is the bars. Is there any more festivals? John, you've been busy. Festival season. In fact, you mentioned Creative Martyrs earlier on. They. They played the Iron. The. We Saw fest and they. One of them said to me, have you seen the news yet? And I was like, no, no, I'm just avoiding it. I wouldn't bother if. If you see a flashing light. And then as he said that, I struck a bit of lightning happened and I didn't say anything. I don't know if I told him this in Govern Hell Festival, but she said this. If you see a strike a light. And then obviously, because it was. This was when there was a Iran. Yes, I saw if you see a flashing light. And I kind of knew what he meant, but then he said that. And then a bit of lightning happened in Aaron and I was. I didn't tell him though because I thought, well, it doesn't. Yeah. [01:02:39] Speaker B: Ever happen. [01:02:41] Speaker A: Did that even happen? Yeah. And also, what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? Nuclear war? Wear a gas mask, I suppose. Festival season, John. Just to wrap up festival season. Where have you been and what you got left? [01:02:57] Speaker B: H. So it's a quieter year for us this year just with me being at uni. So we've not had a majorly busy one. We Mellow Party. Done Back down the rabbit hole. Needing festival. That was great playing the main stage with the Mellow Party boys. In fact, Alistair for Creative Marbles is playing cello with. So he's been a great addition and some. Some guy. Some laugh as well. But I. We Colonel Mustard. Belladrum was the big one there. We've got Aiden Festival and near Peterhead. So that's a week after Soapy Fest. So I think it's the Saturday we're playing after Soapy Fest and then I'm doing the Bony Re Wild show at Vogre Pogre. So that's where we first done that where the Mellow Party guys. But we're all kind of dressed as wolves and teaching kids about rewilding and things I know you guys are passionate about as well. But it's a good laugh, good family show. So we're doing that on the Sunday of Ogre. But I've got a couple of gags with Mellow Party. We're playing Coatbridge. We're actually playing the Cognitive Behavioral Therapy Conference at the sec. So I think we're playing about a thousand CBT delegates. But they've also got hurry to look forward to on the Friday. I think it is at St. Luke's but either after that it's we Mellow Party and then we Colonel Mustard. We've got a thing at Trin. I'm saying we're no busy. I'm trying to cut down on the amount of stuff I'm doing this year. But you know what it's like. Good. Good offers come up. So we're doing a mat and a Show and True McConnell Master in November and then going to see. Going to see a kneecap that night. So I'm glad that wasn't a nighttime gig down there. So I think that's it. There's maybe one or two of us. Oh, you've kind of heard you Mark. [01:05:07] Speaker C: I can do my. My gigs if you want. So yeah, we've played Eden and Kelbourn Soul Fest. I. I can't even remember lots of different festivals so far we Solar Fest. [01:05:22] Speaker A: With your other project, the Diggies. [01:05:24] Speaker C: Oh of course, yeah. We Solar Festival in Arran which I hope keeps going every year because it's amazing and that's with the Diggies. And so I'll start with that because I've got a gig with the Diggies which is just still kind of in its early doors. It's just kind of like a solo project. But yeah, you can find a bunch of the songs which have been released already on. On Spotify and stuff like that. But I've not really played that many gigs. So we've got a kind of one of our first gigs let's say at the Le Arches on Friday if you're in Edinburgh. [01:05:55] Speaker A: But it's that Jade's venue. [01:05:57] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, exactly. So Jade Radley and that venue which is really cool. So basically playing it because wanted to obviously but also because Jade's a great promoter and yeah Barlands then got Manchester Saturday the 6th and then we're playing Equinox Festival on 20th of September. So are we maybe it's the same night? [01:06:22] Speaker A: No, no, usual. No turn up as usual but it'll be. We're on the Fridays or the Saturday so yeah, we'll come and see you as always usual be. But yeah, it's five minutes before our set and then yeah, we'll use it on the user. On the Solar. Solar stage I think it's called. So we played that last year but they promoted us to the main stage this year. Yeah, we're on a kind of. We're on a kind of late afternoon early evening slot in the Friday. So if you're going to Equinox Festival try and get there. Try and get your tent set up. I think it opens in a Thursday night so you can get your tent set up and have a be party on the Thursday but it's a. It's a good time. Equinox Festival Catch us in the fray the main stage and then I think we have views are playing Saturday night. Good headlining. Yes you do. [01:07:11] Speaker C: And then we've got a big one coming UP which is the 4th of October at the QMU which is the party manifesto's first album 10 10th year anniversary. So we're gonna play the full album and we're gonna do a bit of storytelling about the early days because we usually with the Mickey Knees we just kind of rattle through the tunes and just say a few offensive things in between songs but with this one I'm not going to talk that much but we're going to have A few. A few pictures and maybe get a few people up who are really. [01:07:38] Speaker A: An evening. An evening with the Mickey Nines. [01:07:41] Speaker C: No, not that. [01:07:42] Speaker B: An evening of conversation and dance. [01:07:45] Speaker A: No, no, nothing like that. And then. [01:07:49] Speaker C: Yeah and then we're playing Liverpool on 25th October and what else we doing? Are we playing that? Yeah, ulverstone on the 29th. I forgot about that. That's kind of like in the Newcastle district. [01:08:04] Speaker B: Okay. [01:08:05] Speaker C: Yeah. And then. Yeah and also I should probably say 28 November is going to be the Dougie's album launch at the Room two. So I'm gonna. I'm just trying to get that the Dougie stuff off the ground. Easy Ozzy. Slowly slowly. But I've got a. Two more albums where that came from kind of in the works sort of semi recorded already. So I'm just kind of going to start like dripping that out month by month and maybe this time next year I'll have at least another 20 songs. So it's just kind of fun to have it to have that going as well. But Mickey and I are also working on a new album which is going to be a bit. We just released an album called Uncanny Valley which has been doing really well for us online. So I've been pretty chuffed with that. But then we're trying to slight change of direction for the next one which is going to be a bit more metal and a bit more like System of A Down style. Let's just say that. I don't know we've not really gotten all yet so. But something a bit more like that we're going to lean up. Lean into the metal just for. For fun because this is. We've already made five albums so you know we've got for us we just need to keep it fresh and like we've been having loads of fun like Ants the metal riffs in the studio. So we're just gonna do that and see how. See how far we can take the metal stuff. There's a metal chin that Ants wrote for the. For the band Would Would still like to live Deliciously has been by far our biggest hit ever. So we kind of feel like yeah, just got to lean into this man. Let people like it man. Let's just do it. [01:09:26] Speaker B: Get a gig it download. [01:09:28] Speaker C: Yeah. 100% man. I actually think if this works then we might be we going more into that sort of market let's say. So it be quite a different gig set for us maybe for a year if it. If it goes according to plan which will Be fun for us. I mean so we'll see what happens. But yeah, just that's what that's supposed to work. So lots of stuff happening. [01:09:49] Speaker A: Basically amazing. It's a 10 year anniversary. It's actually 10 years. I think it'll be 10 years since Utopia on the. On the day of the bars gig. Nick this, you know, it's weird. AI maybe predicted the future. I googled utu utopia 10 year anniversary and it says that we played the Barans to celebrate our 10 year Utu Ethiopia anniversary. @ that point there was no bars gig in place and then now we're doing about. Yeah, we're not going to. I think we're going to maybe do a couple. I want to play Dreams are Mental which I want to shout out. Dreams Are Mental album came out last on Tuesday. It was out in band camp for everyone that supported it early but it's now on all the platforms so I put a link in the comments just now. So just go and stream it and download it, listen to it once for start to finish and then do it again and then after you've listened it three times you start to finish then come back to me and tell me if you like it or. No, I like. [01:10:41] Speaker C: Yeah, it's just. It's definitely one of those albums that is an album. Do you know what I mean? Like you need. It's good to listen to it in the order and it's good to just kind of listen to a few times and get to know the. The lyrics and stuff like that. It's definitely one of those kind of. It's good in first listen because it's got a lot of tunes on it but it's also. And it's just kind of like all the J baby stuff. It's you know, it's good to listen to in the full context of the album and get to know all the lyrics and stuff. I definitely recommend that. [01:11:11] Speaker A: All right, there you go. [01:11:13] Speaker B: I liked your idea Mark that if you get. And it was for I can't remember what Gyro baby song you said you were going to do it but you should put it out to get everybody to set that as their alarm so that every time like because you can link that up to Spotify so or whatever platform. [01:11:32] Speaker A: So I've got my alarm. The reason I came up with that is because I was doing a system of the down tribute act with Marlon Manson tribute act and just all of those kind of bands and I was a stage manager G rep type person and I didn't. I Actually didn't even get to sleep that night. My insomnia was that bad. I just didn't get to sleep in. It was just one of those nights where he just couldn't sleep it off and just couldn't sleep so at all. So I, I say I had alarm clockers wake up, wake up. And I, I had that every day. So when my Spotify stats came back, my most listened to track was wake up for about had 360 plays or something. I went, hold on a minute. If we could get 10 Gyro Babies fans to make Landfill culture their alarm clock, that's 360 times 10 and that would be good. So. Because obviously I don't, I don't know how that the robotic algorithms work. Obviously I tried to avoid the streaming platforms up until now, but now we're there, it'd be nice to get as many places we can get because then apparently it's going to recommend it to similar listeners. So I do listen to it if you can. And even if you're going to the shop, just put it on in the house before you, you go to the shop. If you don't actually. No, yeah, do what you want. 10 years, my life says yeah. 10 years since. 10 years since the party Manifesto. We've not got any plans to celebrate our 10 years roll back. Hold on, says Lou. Are we throw back to the leds and sing? [01:13:12] Speaker C: Well, just to clarify, when we did a cover of Bugfield Saturday night, didn't actually sing it. I just did a kind of cheesy rap over the top of it and the band played like, played the melody on the guitars so I think I could get out of that. But the epic cover and you can find it on YouTube. There's a, there's a very early Doors. I was playing like in a cafe and somewhere with like three people in the audience playing Saturday night. Wakefield, Mickey Nines, OG's. Do you, I mean people know about those. That era, that was the best, that was the peak when we just did what we wanted all the time. [01:13:49] Speaker A: I, I think I, I think I can, I'm going to get Wagfield on the show. I think Wegfield is maybe a possibility to come on. You call that radio? It's good, it's good to be streaming again. But I've got, I've got, I've got some names that I'll keep on the wraps just now. But yeah, I don't know how long I'm going to be here for. I could be going tomorrow or I Could be here all week, so I'm not sure but we're going to hopefully get some more live streams. Thanks to Michael for saying it's a good belt of an album. Thanks to live for saying astounding. Thanks to stuff saying amazing and dreams are mental is a great player and words as it's got three meanings. So if you've only figured it to have another think. But yeah, thanks everyone for tuning in. Soapy Fest 31st of August. Gyros are. That's what our only gig really that we're focused on. We've got Equinox obviously, main stage in the. That's Lincolnshire though, so it's a bit of a trek. We're doing Lincolnshire with Mickey Nines and then we're going an Irish tour. We're going to Belfast, Dublin and Dock and Derry. I know Gary's £5. That's. No one ever does that. [01:14:50] Speaker B: Well, it's sold out anyway but I. I knew I'd forgot one. A really important one and for again a really amazing guy who I think was. Is backed us all as well at times. We're doing Rocker B and it's a charity gig. Another guy and another guy who was great pals with Sopy that they, you know, festival stall watch that always looked out for us but it's for James Turpe. We're playing Rocker B and it's sold out already I think so I. That side in. I think it's in October so. But I think it's sold out. But contact us if you're really keen to go and we'll see what we can do. But a big shout out to. To Gary and Ollie, James's family. The Toppies are lovely and I remember James. Unfortunately it was cancer with him as well. But I met Sophie up in Milton. I can't say when he was really worried about James. And going back to your story about your. Your dad Mark, that resonated with me when he was talking to me about James. I. The guys supported each other through a lot of hard times and good times as well and I think to go back to what the sentiment is so Perfest is all about and what. What Rocker B is going to be about this year as well. It's about celebrating these guys that live their lives to the full and unfortunately taken too soon but boy did they. They love their lives to the field, you know, so. And it's. It's good for some of the unsung heroes to. To get the plaudits. Albeit it would be nice if they Got more plaudits when they were here. But it's nice for their families to see their lives getting celebrated and their friends. [01:16:43] Speaker A: Absolutely. And this is September 20th. That's Duncan shows the Duncan. [01:16:46] Speaker B: I said, this is September 12th. I've got a wee diary where I just take things off. Right. You need. [01:16:57] Speaker A: September 20th. Nobody's actually responded whether it's sold it or not. But yeah, just. Yeah, you can figure out yourself. Google it or ask. Nobody googles anywhere. The chat. Gbt. Gbpt chat. GPT. Cbd. Cbt. Let's end with some cognitive behavioral therapy. So. So weirdly enough, I've had no stage nerves touch with all year. It kind of. It just happened to me after a lockdown for a while. What would your. Your key advice be to someone who. If they were like, you know, if I get to the bars and I'm feeling a bit anxious about it, or if anyone's feeling a bit anxiety, what's a good tip? [01:17:36] Speaker B: Anxiety. A lot of the time it's the intolerance of uncertainty. So if you can start tolerating uncertainty a wee bit more. And that could be, go to a different supermarket, go a walk a different route where anxiety as well. Dropping your safety behaviors. So avoidance is a mass. [01:18:00] Speaker A: Sorry, continue. Sorry. Just continue. [01:18:01] Speaker B: Avoidance is a massive safety behavior. Reassurance seeking a massive one. Procrastination. Writing lists. For some people, some of these things can be helpful as well. And obviously, if you're trying to avoid something that's bad, fair enough. But if you're just avoiding things, the more you can drop the safety behaviors and challenge yourself. Because uncertainty can sometimes be negative, but it's building up a picture that it can be positive as well. So that's a few tips. But there's different techniques and things you can do. There's a really good soundcloud thing and it's more compassion focused therapy. But doing things like even looking at things like your posture, sitting up straight, getting your shoulders back so that you've got your full lung capacity and then doing rhythm breathing. So breathing in through your nose, but out through your nose. A lot of people think breathing through your mouth. [01:19:05] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna challenge that. I'm challenging that because. So see flight, see flying, obviously you can just. You can just take a volume or have a beer, but I'm not suggesting anyone should do that. But that's the cheat. That's a cheat code. Right. But if you. I remember when I lost my laptop in Mexico, I had to get four flights to get it back and obviously once I had the laptop, I was like, there'll be no value and there'll be no beer because I can't lose it again. I was a thousand pound down trying to get it back. So what I did was, thank you, credit card company. What I did was it was a breathing through the nose and then blew it as if you. As if you're. As if you've got a candle in front a bit. You're not allowed to blow it, so you're blowing the candle but you're not allowed to blow it. So you're going, that works five times. [01:20:03] Speaker B: I like that because I think a lot of people with panic attacks think breathe through the nose, out through the mouth, but actually see, if you do that quite quickly, give you a panic attack, causes you more panic and your heart going and all that. So the breathing slowly out your mouth, probably similar to breathing out through your nose as well. [01:20:22] Speaker A: Right. [01:20:23] Speaker C: But. [01:20:25] Speaker B: In terms of phobias and stuff like that, I think me and Dougie actually had a chat with us when we were down at Aaron Exposure Therapy. But see if you can build yourself up to let you know a hierarchy of getting to the thing that you fear. But if you're able to do that between eight and 14 times, then your brain's going to recognize this isn't a real threat, it's just a perceived threat. And it will then tell itself, actually, this is okay. And it's basically reprogramming your mind because a lot of the time when we are anxious, we're going into fight, flight or freeze mode. So your brain's designed to be unsophisticated. That's why people's thoughts might race or your heart's going. It's because your, your heart's trying to pump blood around your body, your muscles, so that you can either fight or run away. And, and the modern world, a lot of the time we're going in a fight or flight. When it's a perceived threat, it's not a real threat. So if you are scared of something, it's about building yourself up to being able to do that thing, but doing it again and again once you're at that stage so that your brain can go, actually, this is fine. But yeah, avoid avoidance and stop your procrastinating. And there are some good tips to reduce anxiety and challenge your uncertainty. [01:21:56] Speaker A: Amazing. Okay, I think that's a good, a good wholesome way to end. End the show on. I've got a link here. There's a link in the. If you're watching this live. You're listening to the audio version of the podcast. There we link to get your tickets to Soapy Fest. We have confirmation from both Duncan and Gary that Rocker Bay is indeed sell it. So wouldn't it be good to sell out the bars this Sunday? So go get your ticket for Soapy Fest right now. There's a link there. It's going to be Warren starish, guy from 6 o'. Clock. I don't know exactly the running orders yet. We're going to figure that out, but I would imagine it'll be twisted gyros, filthy tongues, Mickey Nines, Colonel Mustard with Gavin Mitchell in between doing the hosting. And Phil Jupiters is going to be spinning banging tunes all night long as well. And then, yeah, it's got to be a good time. It's a good cause and it's a good way to remember a good friend. So hopefully we'll see you all there and I'll see you, I'll see you at the ballroom, the famous ballroom. Thank you to Johnny Mustard calling us on five. Thank you, Douy, Mickey R. And we'll see you next Sunday. [01:23:03] Speaker B: See you later. Good chatting, lads. [01:23:05] Speaker C: See you then. [01:23:06] Speaker A: Bye.