'The Slithering Tentacles of Frank Zappa' w/ Seas of Mirth

[00:00:04] Speaker A: Strange mood about. [00:00:09] Speaker B: You call that radio makes coherent sense. [00:00:13] Speaker A: I should call that radio. We are live with the seas of Mirth, who are going to be performing this Thursday night at audio in Glasgow. And I think we can go live to our of season right now, who I believe is in a boat somewhere. [00:00:31] Speaker B: Correct. Hey, Mark, how you doing, man? [00:00:34] Speaker A: I'm very well. Thank you for joining us on your boat. And, you know, I thought the season was a. Was a mythology. I thought it was metaphors, but here you are. Life from a boat. [00:00:46] Speaker B: Yeah, totally, man. The real deal. [00:00:49] Speaker A: The boat or the band name? [00:00:52] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, definitely the band name. Yeah. We've actually been going for about. Probably over 15 years and various different incarnations. I think it came from like a. You're probably not far off there. Some sort of, like, mythical poetry. I think it's. I can't remember the poet, but I think the. The line is a tiny bubble of laughter. I am become the sea of mirth itself, if I'm not mistaken. That's how it goes. But I didn't think of it. Our man Paul did, and the other guitarist. Yeah. And then the band kind of rolled in with gradual members and then. Yeah, it kind of snowballed from there, really. Yeah, it's been a hoot ever since, man. [00:01:29] Speaker A: And you are. I was just reading an interview there that you were more piratey, but you sort of trying to get away from the pirate thing. [00:01:39] Speaker B: That's right. Yeah, we're kind of. We've kind of gone sub aquatic these days in the last five years. Our third album, submarine dreams, that was like the turning point. We kind of, like, explored all the way we can with all the ideas and everything over surface and we were like, let's proper challenge ourselves now and get a little bit more sensory, get a bit more engaging with people in the crowd. So, yeah, we made some, befriended some led jellyfish posse and a giant octopus called Les Holmes, who's made of Led and, like, synthetic kind of fabric. And. Yeah, it become. Became more of a. Yeah, a lot more of an interactive show. And we are for it because it reflects our ideas of music more. And I think, like, a lot of the parallel I like about the underwater world is there's a lot of the unknown in there and it's also like one of the biggest discos in the world with a lot of. Yeah, a lot of the aquatic creatures and all them funky patterns and trippy lights and stuff like that. So, yeah, we like it down there. [00:02:53] Speaker A: Well, I'm going to put on for a. For anyone who's listening to this as an audio podcast? Just to describe what's happening. I've put on my video on in the background and I believe. I'm assuming this is from Lindisfarne Festival. [00:03:06] Speaker B: Yeah, that's right, man. Yeah. [00:03:09] Speaker A: Show us to how do been. Don't show me for using your footage. I'm sure she will. I'm sure. I'm sure they won't. How do been? Totally my good friend of the show. But then we can see the octopus that you speak of. Your octopus is called Les. [00:03:22] Speaker B: Yeah, it's got to be called something, hasn't it? [00:03:26] Speaker A: So giant. We're witnessing a giant octopus having a dance, I would say. I would imagine the octopuses in is having fun at your gig, mate. [00:03:37] Speaker B: It's having an absolute world at the time. Absolute whale of a time. Yeah. There's someone in there who's kind of controlling him and then one person per leg is great way of just getting lots of your mates into festivals as well. So you're like, yeah, we need one person to drive the Oxford. And it pays off. [00:04:03] Speaker A: Jellyfish. I seen them at. I'm sure it's the same jellyfish at Equinox Festival a couple of weeks ago. Could that have been the same people? [00:04:11] Speaker B: Oh, right, so that would be the jiggling jellyfish. Yeah. So, yeah, we're kind of affiliated with them. We kind of align with them sometimes when they're in the same sort of field as us or kicking around in the same parts of the UK when we're on tour. Yeah, they're awesome. They make amazing jellyfish and. Yeah, yeah, lots of them. Yeah, lots of. Lots of fun times with them. So, yeah, they were. They were equinox this year, were they? Yeah. Cool. We were there. No, the year before last or something. Something like that. Yeah. [00:04:39] Speaker A: My band was on Friday night and I've got some footage I'm actually just nearly finished editing. It was a great week, sort of a great time at Equinox festival. So jellyfish are all friends with each other? There's no jellyfish rivalry between opposing jellyfishes from other parts, other postcodes of the sea? [00:04:57] Speaker B: Not that I know of, man. Yeah. They're all. They're all tentacularly entwined. [00:05:05] Speaker A: On the topic of pirates, interestingly, I know that you. You've. You're friends with Robert Apia, who's. I'm friends with. And I actually remember booking Robert Apia for an international pirate day many years ago. And it was hard banded banana sessions who were fantastic. And they were they were always. [00:05:29] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause I vaguely remember that for back in the days of, like, MySpace. We're going way back now. Show me age, probably. But, yeah, we met Bob at a night in Bristol. We recently did. And, yeah, djing was supreme. It was really cool. And, yeah, a really nice person. That good. That sounds good. [00:05:55] Speaker A: All day, every day. [00:05:55] Speaker B: Yeah, totally. [00:05:56] Speaker A: And so the Nottingham, are you based in Nottingham or is that just where you're from originally? What is. Where is the geography of the band. [00:06:05] Speaker B: When you start, basically? Yeah. Nowhere near the sea. That's. That's that. That's. Yeah. This is the kind of like a therapy from being so landlocked. Yeah. Lots of people. Few in Nottingham, a couple in Derby, one in Leicester. Yeah. You can't get much more landlocked than that. They have the holy triangle of the East Midlands, basically. [00:06:27] Speaker A: And with regards to the gig this Thursday, well, is it. Is there a spoiler alert? Will there be jellyfish there? Will there be October octopuses? Octopi. [00:06:38] Speaker B: Is octopi more than one octopus? I sincerely doubt that. We'll see, we'll see. We'll. I'm not sure. I'm not sure what audio is like size wise, but it might be a little bit of a squish for our less. But definitely going to bring a squadron of jellyfish. Do you know what the collective term for jellyfish is? You know, the collective noun, you know, like a murder of crows equivalent? It's just a smack of jellyfish. [00:07:03] Speaker A: A smack of jellyfish. [00:07:05] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:07:06] Speaker A: And I don't know if, you know, the smack means heroin up here. I don't know if that's the same thing. [00:07:11] Speaker B: Yeah, on Thursday it will mean jellyfish, I assure you. Yeah. [00:07:19] Speaker A: Well, it's always a good, good time audio. In fact, we've just picked a gig for Slay, which is the run by the same people. So audio is usually good. Crack. It said right next to crack, as in banter, not crackers. And, yeah, there'll be a smack of jellyfish and it'll be good. Crack. The YouTube robots we need to. When he take this down, when he take this down. But. So it's just. Where is the tour going? Where have you been and where else are you still to go? [00:07:55] Speaker B: We've kind of been at it since we released our latest album, Crilla. Yeah, pun intended. Just like a disco album about. Well, psychedelic disco, lots of different musical influences, but, yeah, with the visual centered around coral and shrimp, stuff like that. So, yeah, we've been taking that album on tour ever since we released it last September. So, yeah, like I said, we've been to. Been up to Scotland once already. We've been to Edinburgh and we've been up the northern parts of England, like Carlisle, and we're about to hit Newcastle after the Glasgow date. But, yeah, we've been everywhere. Yeah, lots of festivals this year and we've got about seven dates this autumn, which is a decent spread around the UK. [00:08:39] Speaker A: I like to think it's a good time to go on tour street after festival season because obviously the band will be tight. They will have played all the festivals. We just had a gagging Saturday there and just after that, in the festival season, I'm quite glad to just have a. Have a month off just now. Do the pros outweigh the cons with just going straight on a tour after you've done all the festivals? [00:09:03] Speaker B: I think so. Because, yeah, some of the. Some of the best festivals are in September. Like you say, equinox is a total banger. It's. Yeah, some of the best people are there and the weather usually turns out, like, proper. Yeah, um, like a proper scorcher in like mid September. Um, remember? Yeah, last few times we went, it was like, yeah, proper. Proper t shirt weather. We were warm little bunnies. [00:09:24] Speaker A: Um, we got lucky as well with equinox. It was. I think it was raining the Thursday before it, but then by the time we got there, the sun was out and we were happy. And the Lindisfarne was the same this year. I think it was torrential rain before the week before. I'm sure the belt crew won't agree on it being good weather and I think it was raining as we left, but the sun shines upon the actual festival itself. So where have you been this summer and who's been your highlight of this summer? [00:09:53] Speaker B: Highlight this summer? Beat herder. That was a good. And we played two shows there. Yeah, that was. It was. It was amazing. Yeah. Really, really banging crowd. Lost people we knew as well. So, yeah, great, great to catch up with people. And then we love playing to unsuspecting audiences as well. Like, some of our songs are like, quite tickly, very rhythmical, often confusing, but in a good way, just to see like a swarm of people going, hang on, what's going on here? But also like, moving their hips and shoulders at the same time. That was probably the best example of when that happened. This summer we went to Maui Wowie one in Norfolk as well. That was a cool one. Really cool festival. I thoroughly recommend. [00:10:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I've just heard cool people tell me about this. I've never been myself, but, you know, I've heard people like Captain Barrett, who's always finger on the pulse, so it's kind of getting the very base because I didn't recognize a great deal with the lineup, but I think it's a lot of international performers and just sort of cool stuff going on. [00:10:55] Speaker B: Definitely, mate. Definitely, yeah. Good size as well. Like, there's sort of similar size to equinox. Yeah. Plenty of good sights to see, good mix of music, great people. That's what you want at a festival. Yeah. And somewhere that does Halloween prize as well. [00:11:11] Speaker A: And you're also in a band called the Halliminati or is someone else's in the band called Halliminati? [00:11:16] Speaker B: No. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean that as well. Yeah, yeah. We haven't played for a while. We haven't released anything for a while, but the. The band still lives. It's just a matter of when it gets back together, I'm sure. Yeah. It's, uh. People. Yeah, people are dads, people are teachers, people are doing other projects and stuff like that. So, um, it's kind of on standby, I like to think. [00:11:34] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I think. I think we'll play a chin just now. Is there a song I can play off of YouTube? Just never be a music video or something. I can play for people that may not be familiar with tunes at all because so far the descriptions have ranged from underwater Aquafunk to. [00:11:48] Speaker B: What was that one? [00:11:50] Speaker A: What was the most recent one that you've settled on? [00:11:58] Speaker B: Well, we know we never like to settle on anything because. Yeah, we don't like to get too complacent with our genres. We always like to keep it moving and wiggling. Basically. A wet funk was one, but, yeah, that's not really progressing from what you just said. Really? I don't know. Lots of. [00:12:17] Speaker A: There was the word. The word aquatic was in it. I'm pretty sure it was an aquatic. It was. [00:12:24] Speaker B: Was used sub aquatic. Psychedelic nonsense, probably. [00:12:28] Speaker A: Yeah, that sounds great. Okay, so I could be laying line up here. [00:12:36] Speaker B: I'd say a good intro to our band is dig out the moves because it starts the latest album, cruella, and it's also a staple of our live shows. So we're definitely going to play it on Thursday, put it that way. [00:12:48] Speaker A: Brilliant. Okay. Setting up just now. And how did this song come about? How do you rate the songs? Is it different every time? Do you remember? It's how the song came about? [00:13:01] Speaker B: Yeah, it was one of those tunes that came together in lockdown. We were just loads of time to just funny about. With guitar licks and I. Lyrical twaddle, basically. Yeah, it was. Yeah. So it was originally called disco in Furlough. So it was, yeah. Written about something you just totally couldn't do at the time to go out and go to a disco and party your head off, basically. So it was kind of like written for, you know, when. When that stuff happens again that we will be landing with that tune. And that's totally what happened about a year later. And it was ace, so he played it ever since and, yeah, it's always gone down really well. So, yeah. Dig out the moves previously called disco and furloughed I got to make the most of basic music let the mom will slip behind you it'd be hard to find you out with every woman too we'd like to take you to the next official inclination synchronize the human guide you can't forget to integrate and say convert to great speak for all the species here give me the best you got chook as a chunky I'll tell I'm putting cheap ribbon down that crown of my shell jump out of that cap dumb shell don't be afraid to show your skills pull up your humpback tail stick out sparkling streaks about your stinking sneak back up your blues and dig out the moon look it up there's no way out of the circle finding the boss for better bone just show us your moves so get in front of your high house with a double and I see all right, hold time. [00:17:13] Speaker A: Take out the moves by seas of. [00:17:15] Speaker B: Muff who are with that video in. So long, man. Nice one. Yeah. [00:17:21] Speaker A: Cracking video. A cracking video. [00:17:22] Speaker B: Thanks, man. [00:17:23] Speaker A: And we've got some comments coming in from. Definitely got the funk, which is EP Mew. And also thank this for the great evening room, too. Yeah, we had a good weather with our first birthday party for the channel on Saturday. It was a good night. I wish we had a bit more time though. I feel we managed to fit five acts and wish we could play. It went on a wee bit later. And also apologies if the after party. I didn't get the tunes right this time. We took a chance on a different dj to do all the work for a change. And it certainly wasn't the kind of music that you would normally expect from our after parties, but I enjoyed it anyway. I hope you said too. And they definitely got the phone. Stewart says looks like a fun gig. Yeah, I mean. I mean, we've been just showing those visuals that. How important is it to bring that visual aspect to the live show? [00:18:17] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. It's kind of parallel to the music, really. We kind of make the music to match those visuals. Yeah, it's synonymous, really. It's. Yeah, it's totally music that you'd expect to jiggle a tentacle to, or, you know, like twizzle a jellyfish too. That sort of. Yeah, that sort of vibe. Or, like, just let off load of bubbles too, basically. Yeah. [00:18:46] Speaker A: And do you have a favorite city? Obviously, you're probably going to need to say Glasgow, since you're playing there next, but have you played Glasgow before or do you have. Is there a favorite site that you like to go to? [00:18:58] Speaker B: All right, this could be our first time in Glasgow with. First time with seas Mirth anyway. Yeah, we played with Luminarti once at the old art studio. I think something like that was for an old balkan night called Balkan Rama. I don't know if they still do that night. [00:19:11] Speaker A: No, I know. [00:19:12] Speaker B: Well, yeah. You know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They still happen. [00:19:17] Speaker A: Well, they are happening. The Balkan Rama is having a notice that they were. They did something at Edinburgh Fringe just recently, a few people were saying, but unfortunately, the venue, the art school, has had a lot of problems. There's been a lot of fires, basically. It went on fire one time. That get fixed. I think it's the building next. It's on fire. The building's okay. Yeah, we were in there. We were in there for a gig maybe about a year ago now, and it looked like it was reopening. And we're all very excited because a crack in space downstairs bars, quite small, and then upstairs is massive. So it's a good. It's good space for it. And Bok and Rama's nice were always legendary. But I don't know exactly what's going on there. I know the ABC has been that the venue next to it is being demolished today. So it's quite a sad day for Glasgow music because they used to bring an even bigger act. But, yeah. Let us know if anyone knows. I'm actually curious as well. I think that they're just doing a lot of work to it, but it does kind of exist. But not back properly is the long answer to your easy question. So, yeah, Balkan Rama is now about an art school. [00:20:23] Speaker B: Good night. [00:20:24] Speaker A: The way it used to be. Well, yeah, that would be great. So was that illuminati? Was that more kind of Balkan sounding? [00:20:32] Speaker B: Yeah, not exactly Balkan, not even more like the similar sort of modes you would have in, like, eastern european music mixed with lots of different styles and different influences. They are not too dissimilar from our influences in season mirth because we had overlapping members. Sally, the keyboardist, my partner, is also a member, so. Yeah. But going back to cities, which cities are our favorite? Was that the question? I can't remember. Yeah, that was a question like that. Yeah. Yeah. I say, yeah. Nottingham's always great cracks as a hometown derby, as well. Yeah, full of. Yeah, full of our regular, usual, usual suspects. Having it out on the dance floor, having it large. Sheffield's always a crack. Always good crack. They absorb us. Well, let's put it that way. Yeah. We played there for tramlines this summer, and, yeah, it was brilliant. Yeah, absolutely. Packed full on sensory enjoyment and big moves on the dance floor. That's what we like to see. That's what you've seen in the video, obviously. And, yeah, Manchester always go for it as well. We love playing Manchester. We got one coming up in there for a Halloween kind of beyond the grave rave is part of festival organizers and are called not a cult, which is an awesome festival, and it's rare. It's also ran by. It's also ran by Molly from ask my bull, great band who we used to playing with a lot. Sometimes he joins us on stage, so. Yes. Very familiar. Very, very, yeah. Full on, good vibes crew that we. Yeah, we like to play for. Those are the sort of gigs we love to do. We're the best people. [00:22:09] Speaker A: How is derby? So never really been a derby, but we did play bearded theory. [00:22:16] Speaker B: Yeah. Cool. [00:22:17] Speaker A: We played at the beginning of the summer, and I kept on getting mixed up. I was. I kept on calling it beat Herder. I don't know why. I mean. [00:22:24] Speaker B: Yeah, the same opening. Three letters. [00:22:27] Speaker A: Yes. [00:22:27] Speaker B: If I'm not mistaken, it's too close. [00:22:29] Speaker A: So I think I'm though I've got over that because that's a bearded theory. So that means if you heard the next year, then it will be called bearded theory in my world. [00:22:39] Speaker B: Beard herder, maybe. [00:22:41] Speaker A: Yeah, bearded herder. [00:22:43] Speaker B: I like the idea of that. Yeah. What stage was that on? Bearded theory, then was, um, we were. [00:22:49] Speaker A: In the convoy cabaret who were. Who are very. [00:22:51] Speaker B: Oh, cool, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a cool crew as well. [00:22:56] Speaker A: Yeah, brilliant. [00:22:58] Speaker B: If you can hear that. That's just the current situation with the weather on the river Trent. [00:23:03] Speaker A: Yeah, I could hear something. [00:23:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Serious downpour deluge, mate. Yeah. Proper. [00:23:13] Speaker A: Can you drive your boat to any gigs? Is there anywhere that's on your en route that you could just drive a boat to. Could you go on a boat tour? I just have written landlocked. [00:23:22] Speaker B: We could. Yeah, we technically could, but, yeah, we don't. Yeah, that's where our hard corners, like. Yeah, lacks a little bit, man. Yeah. I've got a few mates to do it. They're like, based around the midlands. [00:23:35] Speaker A: Is it too much, is it just. Is it not cost efficient or is it just too much hard work or. Why wouldn't. [00:23:40] Speaker B: It's not the hard work, it's the gear that you would need on the boat to get there as well. Like, lots of our heavy gear is not on the boat. Our boat's only. It's little tiddler. It's like 37 foot, 37ft or something like that. Just enough for the. For the two of us to sit comfortably and have a. Have a nice bed and that's it. But, yeah, I mean, I'd love to. In theory. We've. We got kayaks. So we kayaked to a gig earlier this year that we went playing it, but, yeah, it's just that sort of the romance of it, you know, like, it's this. There's nothing quite like it. [00:24:14] Speaker A: Did your part give kayak for the night or the. Did you kayak back? [00:24:20] Speaker B: Rocked up and then kayaked back and then got about. Got back about 03:00 a.m. [00:24:26] Speaker A: That is pretty good. [00:24:27] Speaker B: Mentally and physically. Knackered. I think we know it was canoe. Yeah. Yeah, it was canoe. So, yeah, even. Even more, um. Even more pressure on your. On your elbows and shoulders. Yeah. Keeps fit and healthy. [00:24:39] Speaker A: And I've actually, you know what? I've got a message from Soapy who said I was to tell you about, uh, doc, since you are. Since you are representing you, not in them, there is a documentary and an author is wanting to talk to Nottingham bands about. About making music from Nottingham. It's. I think it's a tv documentary. I'm going to send you some information about that because the only Nottingham band I could think of that before than the show before as leaf of mods. So cool. Who else is. Who else? Who else is. What's happening in Nottingham that we should know about? [00:25:18] Speaker B: Trying to think from knots. Yes. Sleepers. Mars is probably the biggest, most successful in the few years. But there's some great band. Yeah, there's a great bands from Nottingham. Yeah. We played with before. Lots of. Yeah. That's like cool, sort of indie psychedelic bands. There's band called midnight rodeo. They're really cool. Sancho Panzer, they're another one. Yeah. Very sort of like almost like sixties vibes mixed with current psychedelia big funky grooves as well. There's. Yeah, lots of like, sort of synthy stuff as well. There's a band called Revenge of Calculon who dress up like nacho Libras and. Yeah, and they just rock around on synths and drums and. Yeah, it's good vibe, definitely. That's. Yeah, there's so many that can think of and I'm sure by the time we disconnect, I would have thought about ten more nice later down the line. That's the way it goes, man. But, yeah, that's a good. It's a good sign. It's a good sign. Like, yeah, there's a. There's a lot of diversity and. Yeah, lots of. Lots. Lots of cool stuff. Lots of city festivals. Yeah, it's definitely. It's probably the most. In my opinion, it's probably the most happening city in the Midlands, I reckon. Yeah, yeah. Challenge me on that if you're from Birmingham or Stoke or whatever. I don't know, I've been, I've been. [00:26:36] Speaker A: To stoke before and I would. When I was there was many years ago, though it wasn't very happening. I remember that was the first time that I'd been aware of how. And how much towns were kind of being franchised, or for lack of a better word, that maybe I don't gentrifications, because it was just like the. The names of all the pubs were the same as Glasgow. You know, you had your, you had your O'Neill's pub and then you had your spoons and, you know, I just felt like you could be in any, any city, in any town. [00:27:07] Speaker B: Yeah. There's a cool place called in Stoke called Captain's bar that's run by some of the band. A band called Stingray. Yeah. Funk band. Yeah. Really cool dudes. That's, I don't know, a lot more about Stoke, but, you know, there you go. Yeah, so it's a weird one because it's like five or six towns connected up, making the city. Um, yeah, that's, that's my. Yeah, that's my visual description of it. I just like, I'm colorful podcast put. [00:27:38] Speaker A: Up to the screen at that point, so is so extinguish. Are they, are they. Did you meet them underwater from the underwater scene? [00:27:47] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, totally. No, no, actually I met them at Equinox festival. Go back to the guild. Equinox again. Yeah. Met around of jamming around a fire and then a gig happened out of it and then I. Yeah, they've come to nuts and we've been stoked. So, yeah, part of. The. Part of playing. What I love about players is meeting so many. So many other cool bands and, yeah, connecting with them, playing gigs with them, seeing it at festivals. This is. Yeah, seeing a love. Absolutely. Absolutely love. Yeah. [00:28:17] Speaker A: Who's the. Who's the coolest band you've ever met? We've got a name drop button especially for it. [00:28:22] Speaker B: Oh, coolest. You use this, remember? Probably Les Claypool from Primus. [00:28:28] Speaker A: Name drop. You call that lady o. Get the name drop out there for Primus. Absolutely. [00:28:41] Speaker B: Yes, mate. [00:28:44] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Tell us a story. [00:28:45] Speaker B: Sorry, yeah, no, no, no. It was. I would see one of his solo shows in Germany and I kind of knew the support band, so I was hanging out with them and then Les rocked up and he was like, hey, wanna see my tour bus? And we were like, yeah, okay. And then inside I was like, oh, my God, it's Les Claypool. Wow. I just shook Les Claypool's hand. Whoa. Yeah, proper, like starstruck. I can't help it. I just. That's just the way I go when I meet people like that. But, yeah, anyway, we're in his tour bus and lots of blue lights everywhere. Very sort of, like, very. Yeah, garish and kind of je ne sais quoi about it. And basically, all I could say to, yeah, one of my heroes of music throughout a lot of my life was like, hey, les, do you ever change the colors on this tour bus? Or you just blue? And he was like, nah, blue is cool. And that was it. And then I was like, right, okay, cool. See you later. All the things I could have said, but, yeah, I will. [00:29:48] Speaker A: Yeah, I just. I tend to just keep it brief now when I meet someone like that as well. Just. I like your new album. [00:29:58] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do. If I went down that road, I would have totally brown nosed it, so it's probably a good thing. Yeah, yeah. [00:30:07] Speaker A: And as it was, I suppose that's obviously. That's been a musical inspiration of you somehow. So let's go back to that. When did you start performing music and what are the bands that inspires you to start doing it? [00:30:22] Speaker B: I started before. I've been performing since I was a teenager, when I grew up in Worcester, another part of the Midlands, but a bit more past Birmingham. And, yeah, there were a bit. I played a little bit of heavy metal and attempted to be in a screamo band and sounded like a chinchilla dying one at that. And then, yeah, I moved up here and then played with more musicians and just sort of, kind of everything kind of sprawled and then, yeah, I met Paul. It was a. Yeah. Massive co enjoyer of lots of my favorite music. Yeah, I think the thing about being Paul, we love to just take the mickey out of so much music, and that's kind of how mirth began. We're kind of just parodying lots of things, like stuff we like, you know, we're massive Radiohead fans, for example. But, yeah, I mean, like, we'll always, yeah, we'll always just stick a subtle Radiohead reference that's also a kind of dig at their music as well. It's the tune in the latest album called Bobbit, about like a bobbit worm that kind of just jumps out of the sand on the, on the bed of the ocean. But yeah, there's. The tune ends with like, loads of different vocal layers and there's one just like, one vocal that's just like, let's just sing everything in a monotone. Let's just sing everything in a monotone. Yeah. There's a total dig on Tom York. I hope he doesn't mind. [00:31:57] Speaker A: I don't think it will mean. I don't think it might exactly appreciate it. He's got a great sense of humorous, I think. [00:32:03] Speaker B: I think so. [00:32:03] Speaker A: Yeah, I do. I do love about Radiohead as well, but, yeah, when I'm in the mid for it, obviously, but absolutely, you gotta. [00:32:11] Speaker B: Be in the mood for it. Yeah, yeah, totally. [00:32:12] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. In the mood that is either very happy or very sad. [00:32:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:20] Speaker A: If you're in the middle, it's not. It's not sad. [00:32:22] Speaker B: Music makes that sad. Music is there to make you happy as well as it's this just if it. Yeah, forget the endorphins from it. [00:32:28] Speaker A: I. [00:32:28] Speaker B: That's, that's what matters. [00:32:29] Speaker A: Yeah, I think there's something about, especially if it reminds you of, of being sad many years ago and you're like, I don't know if you like. It does feel quite good because you're like, well, I got through that. I can get through anything. Although exactly. It might have been. You may be under much worse pressure now. So then I don't know. Well, I do like, I'll do like, I do like a sad album that got me through something in the past. It does make you feel good. [00:32:57] Speaker B: Exactly. Came out of it. And you got the range of emotions, man. It's important. Yeah. [00:33:03] Speaker A: Why is there was album that you put on to make you feel happy? [00:33:09] Speaker B: Probably. Probably as probably some zapper. I guess, yeah. I was going to go get into him as a teenager and there's loads of silly lyrics out there usually just like, I'm gonna have to say the best of Frank supper, um, if you ask me, an album. [00:33:26] Speaker A: Well, I'm a fan of Frank Zappa, obviously, the musician. And I loved the, I loved all the interviews he did when he was fighting against censorship and stuff with that. There's some amazing stuff that stands up this day. I think this was early. This would be the eighties. The satanic panic. And Frank Zappa's him up against like a. An evangelical christian in the eighties. So there's some really good stuff either on a talk show or something, which is. Yeah, but I mean, I've got shows to tam the van. He's a Zappa fan. He plays it on our tour bus, which is a van. And sometimes it's not the time of the place for it. Sometimes it's a bit too much for me. [00:34:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:08] Speaker A: Especially if I've smoked something I shouldn't have smoked. [00:34:10] Speaker B: I'm like, yeah, that could be the perfect storm sometimes. So for next services. [00:34:20] Speaker A: So, I mean, do you, when it comes to the live show, do you. What do you need to do before the live show is that, uh. Do you have to have a beer before you go on stage? Do you have to do a meditation and. [00:34:33] Speaker B: I don't know, beer is meditation for me a little bit. Yeah. Um, yeah, I like to have had two and one on stage. Yeah. And I need water just before I go. Just before I go on so we can gargle. So the live show starts with like a harmonic chorus of gargles, basically. And. Yeah, it sets the tone for the silliness of the set. Yeah, you kind of, you kind of. You're locked in. You're zoned in by that point. [00:35:06] Speaker A: There's one part of you that wants to laugh at Chicago and, you know, worried him. [00:35:11] Speaker B: It's happened before, man. Yeah, it'll happen again. There's sometimes where like, yeah, I choke on the water and then it like, yeah, it dribbles down my beard and then. Yeah, yeah, I got all sorts of jeers from the crowd. Yeah, yeah. You've got to be vulnerable in these moments, man. Yeah. [00:35:27] Speaker A: Hydration is also important as well. So. [00:35:30] Speaker B: Absolutely. [00:35:31] Speaker A: It's key when you're losing so much water on stage by putting on a, on a live performance. And I actually just go, we'll put another song on just now as well. What would be your second introduction? The season moth. [00:35:47] Speaker B: Very good question. So we got dig out the moves. I'll probably. Probably. [00:35:52] Speaker A: Ticky tack, ticky tack, and that's fine. [00:35:57] Speaker B: So it's a tune that's. How can I say? It's multilingual. And basically, the context behind it is for divers who have been sent down on a task, they run into problems. It sounds familiar, really, with the news that happened last year, but I guarantee you that it wasn't related to that. It was written first, and then the Titan sub story came out in the news after that. So completely coincidental. Anyway, they can't speak any of the same languages as each other, so they fall into a big communication breakdown, and it all goes south from there. It's also a guaranteed party banger. [00:36:38] Speaker A: Is it okay to play the live version from the Mars bar in Worcester? [00:36:43] Speaker B: I'm gonna say, yeah, I'm not. Yeah, I'm not familiar with that version, but, yeah, I mean, like, that's. Yeah, you get a good vibe. Yeah, do it. Yeah, that's one. Ticket. [00:37:27] Speaker A: Ticket. Tack, ticket, ticket. [00:37:28] Speaker B: Tack, tack, tack. Ticket tactic. Ticket, ticket, ticket tacky. [00:37:32] Speaker A: Tap. Ticket, tacky tactic. Ticket, ticket, ticket, ticket. [00:37:35] Speaker B: Tack, tack, tack, ticky. Down the next. Alma. Should I come up? Finish you up. Should I come? Gross. The next down. The next down. Finish up. Robotegrae Mensah Buska and the lost men say bronze regatta comeosi bronze poke from nicosi kosa kosi kosaka lamb lambsakum. See new song to come down there. New song to come down there. We are for on to new to Phantom. We are for on to New Phantom. Up the next one. Commit you are Jennifer. [00:40:55] Speaker A: You call that radio? And we are live with Alf of streets of north and they are playing audio Glasgow this Thursday, the 10 October. If you're listening to this before the 10 October, and if you're listening to the future, then you can. There's a link tree there. We see link tree, but it's actually a linked e. And all the band's music and upcoming tour dates are going to be there. Uh, we've got a person who got a. Hello, uh, Louie. Hello, everyone. The greetings from Durban, South Africa. Hello to South Africa. Ed Stuart says, that's so cool. And Ep says, I love a bit of Frank Zappa now and again. And if I may, this nuts for Dweezil. [00:41:47] Speaker B: That's his son, isn't it? Dweezil Zappa, yeah, he named his son. Named his son Dweezle. [00:41:55] Speaker A: And that's one way to make sure it becomes a rock star. [00:41:59] Speaker B: Yeah. No, not many other pathways linked up for that name. [00:42:05] Speaker A: I worked in a lot of call centers and there was, hi, my name is Dweezo Zappa, and I'm calling from insert corporate thing there. [00:42:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:15] Speaker A: As Dweezoo Zappa, who's 55 years old, who's 55. [00:42:20] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's. I think he still tours with Zappa. Play Zappa, so whatever. Yeah. One of just one of the classic artists who's now their music has survived by their offspring on tour, I think, of any other thing. John Bonham was another one when Led Zepp got back together. John bottom still on. On the drums. The. [00:42:41] Speaker A: The same thing happened to the Eagles. I took my dad's. Yeah. A few years ago, and it was Joe's son, I thought he's called Joe, but, yeah, he felt that, I think, for. Yeah, that's a good way of doing it. Just. [00:42:55] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, sure. Keep. Keep the vibes alive and just change. [00:42:59] Speaker A: Them every time someone passes away. You get the sun comes in and you can just keep the band going on forever. Yeah, yeah. And it just never, ever, ever stops. [00:43:10] Speaker B: When it comes to touring. [00:43:13] Speaker A: What's your rules for touring? What advice would you give to bands that are maybe just thinking about going on tour or embarking on the first tour? Is there any hard and fast rules how to survive that environment? [00:43:27] Speaker B: Eat lots of fruit and veg. That's the first one. Definitely get a van that has been through just very basic safety checks. We did one tour of Holland a few years ago, and the exhaust tore apart before we hit Dover, really. And it just sounded like a helicopter, basically. Especially if we were going through some of those tunnels in Europe. It's like everyone. Everyone could hear it. Yeah, we got pulled over by the cops and they were like, yeah, this is just not legal. You know, we're pretending you can't hear it. Don't pretend everyone can hear it. I can hear it. You can hear it. Yeah, we had to. But, yeah, the good thing was that there was very kind people in Holland who were looking after us. And one guy was a mechanic, and he basically bodged it together, which lasted the rest of the tour. So, yeah, I'd say, yeah, definitely get. Yeah, get a real adult to check your vehicle beforehand. They're just buy one the week before then. Yeah. And hope for the best. Yeah, we survived that tour by the skin of our teeth. [00:44:42] Speaker A: But what is the general? I mean, who's briggs affected Turin or has it? [00:44:50] Speaker B: I couldn't tell. I mean, I couldn't tell you from experience, because we've not attempted to go on tour in Europe since the Brexit hammer. Yeah, I mean, like. So, yeah, some of our mates do and I think. I think you just got to be very sort of very casual about it and try and go with a less suspicious gear as possible. I say suspicious gear. I mean, like, you know, like amps and drums and stuff like that. Contraband. [00:45:17] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:45:19] Speaker B: I'm not the best person to ask because I've not tried it, but, yeah, yeah, I. Yeah, I think similar bands to say you got. You can't sell merch because it's countless sales and. [00:45:29] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, you've got to. If you bring 20 t shirts, you need to give them the government the money for the 20 shirts and then you get a refund at the other side if you've not. So. Yeah, on your way back and things like. So, yeah, principles. Barcodes. Take tick. Take flyers with barcodes on them so that people can buy off bandcamp. But you know yourself, that's not really. It doesn't really work that way. People are excited. [00:45:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:54] Speaker A: That maybe the first 510 minutes you come off stage, they want to buy a t shirt from you. [00:45:59] Speaker B: Then it's not golden strike while the eyes. Hot moment, isn't it? Yeah. [00:46:03] Speaker A: I'll go in band camp and I've got a hangover. And they rely so much money spent. [00:46:08] Speaker B: Yeah, that very rare. Remember that? Yeah. And then you got the postage cost. Like saps like pro node five. Buy another five or seven quid on top for postage. It's not the same. It's not the same. Yeah. [00:46:22] Speaker A: 500 says, well, you can have a minimum donation with a t shirt reward, but maybe there's a raffle gray area. But if we go next year to tour anywhere, we'll be sticking to the rules and there'll be no raffles or minimum donations. We'll be doing it by the book for anyone watching. We'll be doing it by the book, by the law of the land. The law, the land of the UK, the God save the king and all that Coco Coconut says, you ask my bill. Just got into you guys through them is ask my bill. A band that you know or, or bell a person that you know. I don't know. [00:47:02] Speaker B: Ask my bull. Yeah, I mean, like I asked my bill could be a tribute band maybe. I don't know. Yeah. They're that successful already. [00:47:10] Speaker A: Ask my ball. You mentioned earlier on what's ask my ball? [00:47:13] Speaker B: Kind of. They could describe themselves as flamboyant jazz, punk and it's totally that. Yeah, yeah, that's. That's a totally a good entry level description for them. There's plenty of their music that you could just sort of really just. Just talk in. [00:47:29] Speaker A: Sorry, ask my bill, as in. Yeah, okay, cool. Sorry, just. There's an accent thing going on here between us both, I think. [00:47:38] Speaker B: So, yeah. [00:47:40] Speaker A: Ball. Ball. I thought it was ball. Yeah, right, got you. So, yeah, so flamboyant jazz punk. That sounds interesting. And Epis confirmed that. Yes, he does his dad's stuff, but also his own work too. And. Yes. So for first position, you've got a few more to this. You got Glasgow if you're Newcastle. What can we expect from the season month between now and the new year. [00:48:06] Speaker B: Of 2025, these dates and then. Or else? Actually, I think we've got some remixes that have been crafted together by some very, very crafty, talented people. We know we might drop a few of those before the turn of the festive era. And then. Yeah, we won't be back on stage again until April, just the next gig we've got booked. I'm going to Thailand. Basically, I'm escaping for the worst part of the winter from January to April. [00:48:49] Speaker A: That's exactly what I did for November. To march or something like for Mexico. [00:48:54] Speaker B: Good shout, man. [00:48:55] Speaker A: It was great. It was great. It was expensive, but it was good. I'm glad I did that. But, yeah, maybe the idea was to hopefully go to Thailand this year myself, but it's just not going to be possible. Maybe next year. Maybe next year, next winter, escape again. I mean, if I could escape every second winter, then. Then I would be very happy. [00:49:13] Speaker B: Yeah. The older I'm getting them, the more. The more I need that winter sun hit. Even if it's like a week in Tenerife for whatever it is, man. [00:49:20] Speaker A: Yeah, usually I've been quite good. I mean, you were usually so busy that the rest of the year, and I love. I love Scotland and England and the UK in the summer anyway. I love going to Ireland and it's a great place to be in the summer. It's just really usually a bit January after the festive season dies down, that it is just good what you said. Tenerife, your canary islands are usually quite a cheap way of getting away and getting 20 degrees sunshine or maybe more if you're looking. Maybe a little bit less. [00:49:49] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. We got like 24 degrees, but loads of wind, so just like. Yes, it's like an island of lost hats everywhere, but yeah. [00:50:01] Speaker A: Have you been to Thailand before or is this a new adventure? [00:50:05] Speaker B: This is a new adventure for me and Sally. Yeah, yeah. We've been on about it for a while, but, yeah, we finally got everything in place, everything in gear, and we booked our flight, too tired, to Bangkok. And then we're gonna travel towards Vietnam. And then we booked our flight back from Hanoi. So that's. Yeah, that's our winter sabbatical lined up. Yeah, I think we've earned it because we've been touring a lot, so. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, we've been committed to touring through the winter as well, which is a noble thing to do in today's climate of live music. Just showed. Show the venues. Show the venues all the love. Go to gigs in the winter if you can, and the summer as well. I need. Everyone goes to festivals in the summer, but these venues need their support all year round. So, yeah, it's rich coming from me. Go to Southeast Asia, three months, you've done your. [00:50:57] Speaker A: But you've done your bite. You deserve your breakaway. What venues? If you could wave a magic one, which venues need to be saved that you would go. I couldn't live without it. We need. We need to keep that one. Have you got a top three venues off the top of your head? [00:51:13] Speaker B: What, ones that are just venues that you like publicly, kind of struggling a little bit. [00:51:19] Speaker A: Well, they may not be struggling, just your three top venues. So either as a performer or just as a pointer, venues. Love watching your favorite bands in. [00:51:28] Speaker B: Yeah, the hairy dog and Derby. That's. That's. That's a good local one. It's. It's a massive. It's a massive venue. It's like 400 cap or something like that. Yeah, definitely. If you really find yourself in the midlands, go to that. But this is just. It's grand. And, yeah, the sound sounds fantastic, but, yeah, people are good. Beers good. Yeah. Especially if you're more. You're like more heavier stuff, like your rock and metal and punk, stuff like that. That's. Yeah, that's great. Thank you for that. What else? Two more. Hang on. Manchester old Abbey tap house is another one. It's an outdoor venue, so it's like a festival environment under canvas. We played there, in hindsight, probably quite stupidly, at the end of November, where it was absolutely baltic, mate. And, yeah, we had to wear our thermals on stage. Yeah. I'm not really selling it, actually, to be honest. But, yeah, if you get the optimum temperature, it's an absolute cracking vibe. Yeah, brilliant. In the sort of like, south end of Manchester hall area, I think. And, oh, one more venue. What venue? The moon in Cardiff. Really cool venue, that. Yeah, the live music scene in Cardiff, it's like the running joke that it's just kind of just one street. So you've got the fuel rock bar, Chloe for back and the moon. We played the moon loads of times. Staff are totally legendary. Yeah, plenty. Plenty of. Plenty of good times had at the moon. Really cool. [00:53:04] Speaker A: Not to be confused with the moon on Sucky Hall street. That's no longer with us, which was one of the wildest nightclubs of all time. I remember being in an argument. A few of us were in an argument and a guy with a suit came on. We thought he was like an undercover copy, he was a bouncer. And he told, why didn't you come in, have a drink and sit, you know, calm it all down over. Over a drink to over a pound. Vodka and coke. But yeah, the moon was wild. That was not to be confused. That was like Gaba, Eminem remixes. But yeah, coconut asked, should we check with bonk as well? Jazz, funk fusion and ovain is more traditional, Jazzenhe. We're tripped funk sort of thing. I don't know. [00:53:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:51] Speaker A: So bonk. [00:53:53] Speaker B: And I've heard of Bonk. I've checked them out. There's. There's some confusing on a matter pier that surrounds this sort of scene at the moment. So you got bonk there from Liverpool. Yeah. And ASMR ball, they've got a tune called gonk, and then we've got. And then there's another unban from Huddersfield, I think, called clonk and then that. That links to us because we've got a song called Clank, Clank. So basically, all of the onomatopoeia ending with NK is covered there. Great work, everybody. [00:54:24] Speaker A: And is there any. Last question for you. Is there. Is there any more bands that we should be checking out from anywhere in the world? Old, new, young, old who? Maybe just a band. Maybe we've not heard that. Maybe our listeners haven't heard that before. [00:54:38] Speaker B: Yeah, the. The best. I think the best discover musical discovery we. We came across recently was bangled, not soup. Yeah. [00:54:49] Speaker A: And from the law. From Nottingham. [00:54:52] Speaker B: No, from Birmingham. Okay, so, yeah, yeah. Not so. Yeah, yeah. Right, yeah, yeah. When we bring to Nottingham. That would be the name of the title, definitely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really cool. Like, yeah, very sort of like proper, almost like math rock riffs, like twelve minute tunes almost. But like, solid grooves and really, like, interesting stuff. You can really sort of get entangled in that sort of vibe. Yeah, we saw. We saw them and it was like part of Wista music festival that we played earlier this year, the player, like, in the top end of a record shop, but I think most everyone was just watching them for the first time would just be like, blown away, really. Yeah, really cool, soulful vibes. A mix of soul and rock and. Yeah, just stuff that you can't really describe and that. That's what I like about music that I like to discover, like, I like to not be able to put my finger on it and I liked it. Yeah. Like I said before, just like, be delightfully confused and then almost like, yeah, live and live inside the music and trying to work it out. [00:55:59] Speaker A: Do you know the bands are supporting you on Thursday at Glasgow? Do you know? [00:56:04] Speaker B: Yes. So Woody and the dogs. Yeah, yeah, but, yeah, both local supports. Yeah, Woody and the dogs, kind of. Yeah, more like a. Like a. Like a melodic indie, but with some really, really cool, tasty, shredding. Shreddy style riffs. That's what I've heard them so far, dot pixies as well. So they're kind of like more like a modern psyche stuff. They're very. Yeah, very kind of hazy. Lots of dronies, droney kind of vibes as well. Yeah. Then they sound a really, really fun people to be around as well, so I'm really, really looking forward to it. My first time in Glasgow. Yeah. First hope goes up and bang. [00:56:43] Speaker A: Yeah. Hopefully everybody can come out for that. I hope to be there as well. It's just Thursday night. Unless you listen to us in the future, in which case you've already missed an amazing night. It was a brilliant night. We were there, everyone was there and it was. We did. The dogs were great, dog patches were great and Cecil Murth were absolutely smashed it. So if you were in the future, you missed out. If you're not in the future and you're looking at your clock and it's not quite 07:30 on the 10 October, then you still have time to get done at audio. It's just next to Central Station. Easy to get. [00:57:17] Speaker B: Yeah, it really is, it's. Yeah, we've looked at it quite in detail on the map, actually today, because it's just in the. In the Les zone. The lesser zone. Yes, the less itself. Yeah, yeah, that sounds good zone, doesn't it? Yeah. [00:57:34] Speaker A: But thank you very much, it's been a pleasure to speak to you today and hopefully be at the gig on Thursday. [00:57:40] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, man, that'd be awesome. Thanks so much. Mark, you total legend, mate. [00:57:43] Speaker A: No worries. Thank you, bye. And that was all from season moth. You can already tell by the videos that it's going to be an unreal live show so get along to it on Friday, sorry, Thursday after in Glasgow. And it's also the tours taken in Newcastle soon as well. Thank you. If you've been watching on Facebook, if you're watching on Twitter you're watching on Twitch, try and go over to the YouTube channel though because it's best if we have everyone in the same. But our next show I'm not sure. I think we may have a guest tomorrow night but I've not confirmed it yet. It was all dependent on when we could do the show. So we've got that done and yeah, thank you to the season earth and we'll be back very soon. Shout outs to the patrons this show only exists because the patrons. You can support us by Callthatradio for bonus material, free guest lists and discounts to Hangslin festivals. Thank you. This is a month. [00:58:40] Speaker B: Bye.